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Old 11-16-2010, 04:54 PM
 
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(Source: Investor’s Business Daily – survey statistics from United Nations [/SIZE]International Health Organization)
Percentage of men and women who survived a cancer five years after diagnosis:
U.S. 65%
England 46%
Canada 42%

Percentage of patients diagnosed with diabetes who received treatment within six months:
U.S. 93%
England 15%
Canada 43%

Percentage of seniors needing hip replacement who received it within six months:
U.S. 90%
England 15%
Canada 43%

Percentage referred to a medical specialist who see one within one month:
U.S. 77%
England 40%
Canada 43%

Number of MRI scanners (a prime diagnostic tool) per million people:
U.S. 71
England 14
Canada 18

Percentage of seniors (65+), with low income, who say they are in "excellent health":
U.S. 12%
England 2%
Canada 6%
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Old 11-16-2010, 05:08 PM
 
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What is the "United Nations International Health Organisation"?

Never heard of it.

After seaching online, I did come across this though

United Nations International Health Organization Survey. | paulswansen.com
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Old 11-16-2010, 05:34 PM
 
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What is the "United Nations International Health Organisation"?

Never heard of it.

After seaching online, I did come across this though

United Nations International Health Organization Survey. | paulswansen.com
Apparently there are several challenges to these 'statistics' (I've not been able to verify further with IBD, but will follow up). Nevertheless, I think the question in many minds is: "How well are UK and Canadian healthcare systems actually working?" -- Overall Government-run US agency/ program management efficiency hardly builds confidence. (Maybe we can get the Post Office to deliver healthcare?)
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Old 11-16-2010, 05:39 PM
 
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Australia has Universal Healthcare.

It is not perfect.

However, insurance companies don't run the show.

I have never heard of any person here being made bankrupt due to being sick.
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Old 11-16-2010, 05:47 PM
 
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It's one incident and anecdotal, but by far the best health care experience of my life was when I was hospitalized in London (Crawley Hospital). Shortest wait I've ever had in an ER. Fantastic doctors and staff. Excellent treatment.

As a foreigner, I did have to pay for my visit. For most of a day in the ER and 1 night's stay after being admitted to the hospital, my bill was a grand total of the equivalent of $450 US dollars (all inclusive - included all tests and medications as well).
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Old 11-16-2010, 05:50 PM
 
Location: Southern Minnesota
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YES!!!! I want Canadian-style universal health care.

72.8% of all statistics are wrong.
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Old 11-16-2010, 05:51 PM
 
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(Source: Investor’s Business Daily – survey statistics from United Nations [/SIZE]International Health Organization)
Percentage of men and women who survived a cancer five years after diagnosis:
U.S. 65%
England 46%
Canada 42%

Percentage of patients diagnosed with diabetes who received treatment within six months:
U.S. 93%
England 15%
Canada 43%

Percentage of seniors needing hip replacement who received it within six months:
U.S. 90%
England 15%
Canada 43%

Percentage referred to a medical specialist who see one within one month:
U.S. 77%
England 40%
Canada 43%

Number of MRI scanners (a prime diagnostic tool) per million people:
U.S. 71
England 14
Canada 18

Percentage of seniors (65+), with low income, who say they are in "excellent health":
U.S. 12%
England 2%
Canada 6%
Why don't you put up the statistics for average life expectancy or infant mortality?

Probably because the UK (it isn't England ... makes one wonder where you really got your statistics) beats the US on both counts.

ps. Its the World Health Organization not the International Health Organization .... you are not real good at this are you
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Old 11-16-2010, 06:14 PM
 
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Why don't you put up the statistics for average life expectancy or infant mortality?
Both of these statistics can be skewed, the life expectancy for example is skewed by other factors unrelated to health. One factor skewing the infant mortality rate is a severely premature baby is more likely to born alive in the US and then die...in this instance because of superior health care you're creating higher rate of death.
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Old 11-16-2010, 06:27 PM
 
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Australia has Universal Healthcare.

It is not perfect.

However, insurance companies don't run the show.

I have never heard of any person here being made bankrupt due to being sick.
You've hit the nail on the head, my friend. Speaking as someone in the NYC area, healthcare is wonderful. The finest doctors in their fields, great hospitals, etc. Where the trouble lies is with the Insurance Companies: What visits they will approve or not; is it in Network; is a prior approval required; What is deemed by them to be necessary vs. the opinion of the doctor ... and the list goes on.

I would also like to see an independent (read as "NOT government run") review of Medicaid and the rampant fraud which exists throughout that system. I would like to see a FULL review done on all recipents of Medical Disability. And finally, I would like to see a full-on government intervention done on pharmaceutical companies who bleed us dry with their insane cost for medications.

Rant over!
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Old 11-16-2010, 06:33 PM
 
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Both of these statistics can be skewed, the life expectancy for example is skewed by other factors unrelated to health. One factor skewing the infant mortality rate is a severely premature baby is more likely to born alive in the US and then die...in this instance because of superior health care you're creating higher rate of death.
All statistics can be skewed which is why people on this forum pick and choose the ones that suit them (which was my point). The reality is that US healthcare is comparable in quality to healthcare in other developed countries ... neither much better nor much worse. The main difference is that it is a lot more expensive.
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