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Old 11-24-2010, 08:39 PM
 
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People who claim that 9/11 was an inside job and was a controlled demolition are just as insane as people who still believe that Obama was born in Kenya.
People who believe EVERYTHING the government says are weak-minded with a slave-mentality

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Conspiracy people are funny..

9/11, the moon landing, area 51, bigfoot, blah blah blah.

Come on people....got to grow up sometime.
Conspiracy theorist are more like people who just want to actually find the truth
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Old 11-24-2010, 08:57 PM
 
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Not at all.

Now you're kidding, right?

I get it. You weren't kidding before, but you are now!

Hey, great one!

I get it! I get it!
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Old 11-24-2010, 08:58 PM
 
Location: Southcentral Kansas
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Coal mighta done it, but not kerosene.
Is jet fuel just the same thing as kerosene? I didn't know that.
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Old 11-24-2010, 09:00 PM
 
Location: Southcentral Kansas
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Agreed if you don't know what the temperature of the Windsor Tower fire you can't compare it to the World Trade Center where it's estimated temperature reached an estimated 2000 degrees.

Windsor Tower - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia



You also need to have the technical expertise to understand the structural differences between the two buildings. The Twin Tower were over 100 stories tall an the Windsor Tower was 32 stories tall. The stresses on the support structure of the Twin Towers were much higher than on a 32 story building. Meaning the result of a structural compromise were much more severe.

The OP put 1 and 1 together and came up with 3.


I am not allowed to rep you for this post but hope this is good enough. BTW, isn't 1 and 1 three?
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Old 11-24-2010, 09:02 PM
 
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Thank you because I think a lot of these conspiracy theroists have no clue as to the construction of the WTC (tube frame structure) unlike most the way most highrises are built which is a steel or concrete cage type construction.
Exactly, and it's why the windows were so small and skinny as opposed to large open ones you see on many buildings. Here's layout. The yellow is all open floor space.




The floors or yellow part tied the outside skin to the internal structure, this would prevent them from buckling. The outside skin also provided support for them. Remove one element either the floor or the outside wall and you have a compromised structure, remove both you have disaster.
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Old 11-24-2010, 09:11 PM
 
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Is jet fuel just the same thing as kerosene? I didn't know that.

"Auto diesel fuel is ordinary kerosene to which a dye has been added to show that the road tax has been paid. Jet fuel is ordinary kerosene to which an anti-bacterial agent has been added and sometimes an anti-icing fluid. The anti-bacterial agent prevents the growth of hydrocarbon eating bugs at the interface between kerosene and water. The anti-icing fluid is added on a seasonal basis and is sometimes added at the pump."

"There is no difference in either product as a diesel fuel."

auto diesel versus kerosene versus jet fuel
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Old 11-24-2010, 09:13 PM
 
Location: SW Missouri
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When did you get your engineering degree?
I didn't say this. I read it. And yes, I believe the person who wrote it was an engineer or a physicist, I'm not sure which.

So you are saying that just because the floors "pancaked" that they somehow became significantly heavier? How does that work?

20yrsinBranson
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Old 11-24-2010, 09:16 PM
 
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I didn't say this. I read it. And yes, I believe the person who wrote it was an engineer or a physicist, I'm not sure which.

So you are saying that just because the floors "pancaked" that they somehow became significantly heavier? How does that work?

20yrsinBranson

Careful. Common sense questions may subject you to harassment and ridicule.
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Old 11-24-2010, 09:19 PM
 
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One group claims, and one group believes.

Hmmmm!
Which of the two would be most likely to be working WITH evidence; and which would most likely to be working WITHOUT evidence?

It is difficult (impossible) to prove a positive from a negative, which is why "adverse inference" applies as a substantial legitimacy. The entire judicial system relies on this tool.
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Old 11-24-2010, 09:27 PM
 
Location: Reality
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I didn't say this. I read it. And yes, I believe the person who wrote it was an engineer or a physicist, I'm not sure which.

So you are saying that just because the floors "pancaked" that they somehow became significantly heavier? How does that work?

20yrsinBranson
They didn't get heavier, they gained momentum and inertia took over. If you take 2 items of the same exact weight, you put one on the ground then you drop one from 10' down to the ground do they apply the same force to the ground?

To me it's pretty clear if you look at the second building collapse that it buckled at the point of impact and the weight of the structure above above that point came crashing down destroying the floors below.
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