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It seems like the only way to "win" is to pay afghan forces more than taliban forces, which we might be able to do by cutting into heroin profits, which we might be able to do by coordinating with all other major heroin importers and set up facilities where a person can show up once every two years, admit to being a heroin addict, get locked up in their very own cell for 10 days (just enough time to get it out of their system) and then have that part of their record expunged.
and also jack up prison time for dealing/trafficking heroin/opium.
How to win in Afghanistan? Have you ever played the board game Risk? South Central Asia has been fought over for over 2000 years. All conquerors have realized that invading and conquering S.C. Asia is one thing, holding it is entirely another.
Afghanistan is a stinking hell hole of a place, stone aged, and dissolute of all things within it.
How to win? Make it a glass factory that glows in the dark. Everything other solution is like a Chinese finger puzzle.
You sure do have a lot of solutions to problems you don't understand fully. World hunger, global warming and now the war in Afghanistan... Very impressive.
The only way to "win" somewhere in Asia is to stay there indefinitely. That was how the British won in India they were there from 1615 to 1946. We "won" in Japan and we are still there today.
It seems like the only way to "win" is to pay afghan forces more than taliban forces, which we might be able to do by cutting into heroin profits, which we might be able to do by coordinating with all other major heroin importers and set up facilities where a person can show up once every two years, admit to being a heroin addict, get locked up in their very own cell for 10 days (just enough time to get it out of their system) and then have that part of their record expunged.
and also jack up prison time for dealing/trafficking heroin/opium.
So spend more money...or as conservatives say, "throw more money at the problem?" Then set up a magnanimous system that expunges records and has some sort of wierd government sponsered 10 day lockup? LOL...hell, we don't even treat heroin addicts THAT good at home.
But then, we should "jack up prison time" for dealing? LMAO!! So let's set up a "War On Drugs" like we have here in the United States that is by the way, a COMPLETE FAILURE!
We fight war's with one hand tied behind our backs. If we truly wanted to win, we'd need a full scale mobilization and draft more soldiers, declare war and kick down every door, check every cave. We'd have to not give a rats ass about collateral damage, or even our own casualties. Shoot, kill, and blow everything up that doesn't agree with us. Then, invade Pakistan and do the same thing.
We'd win, if we could do that. But that's not possible for a million reasons.
We fight war's with one hand tied behind our backs. If we truly wanted to win, we'd need a full scale mobilization and draft more soldiers, declare war and kick down every door, check every cave. We'd have to not give a rats ass about collateral damage, or even our own casualties. Shoot, kill, and blow everything up that doesn't agree with us. Then, invade Pakistan and do the same thing.
We'd win, if we could do that. But that's not possible for a million reasons.
I don't buy this idea that we fight with one hand tied behind our backs. That's the excuse we use because we've ended up in stupid wars that were not only ill conceived, but were never winnable in the first place.
Besides, the Russians didn't fight with hands tied behind their backs and got the same treatment we're getting. Trying to subdue nations (if you wanna call them that) that are thousands of years old and don't like foreigners to begin with is an impossible task. We're not going to win in Afghanistan because we can't, not because of the rules of engagement. There is a such thing as "limits of power." After Vietnam, Iraq, and Afghanistan, seems that we STILL haven't learned what that means.
I think the opportunity to win has long passed. The moment Bush decided to go there, without a clear plan to "win the peace", we lost. He lied to go there, so we were lost before it started. In fact, that region is in a perpetuate state of war and conflict. They appear to be proud people, strong in their convictions, and possessing incredible resolve and endurance. But they are chronic bickerers. No amount of firepower can stop this behavior.
A "win" is to get the hell out of there and prevent further casualties and wasted resources. We need to acknowledge that it was a mistake to go there when other non-military options were available. Worse atrocities are allowed to persist in Africa. We can't police the world and no amount of
continued military commitment will stop chronic bickerers from bickering.
A "win" is to also recognize that we need to quit dumping so much money in support of Israel while our country continues to bleed to death. Israel needs to be told to get their arses off of Arab land. Enough of the intrusion. It is the catalyst for uprising in that region, and continued rage against the west. They are justified in their rage, so we must change our approach by giving them more consideration as human beings. Not dump money there to kill their women, children, and elderly because they won't sit by and allow the continued intrusion.
The only way to "win" somewhere in Asia is to stay there indefinitely. That was how the British won in India they were there from 1615 to 1946. We "won" in Japan and we are still there today.
If a country has to stay in residence for 331 years in order to consider it a "win", guess what? They lost.
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