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Old 11-29-2010, 08:51 AM
 
Location: Brooklyn
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95% likelihood this is Israel's doing. It's one of the most bigoted, brutal governments in the World.
95% likelihood, you say. Really? According to whom?
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Old 11-29-2010, 08:55 AM
 
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I agree. SA is a predominately wahabist nation (as you know, an extreme form of Islam that has produced the likes of the 9/11 terrorists and UBL). Under the Saudi royalty, they will be pretty civil in the world community - but that nation is teeming with strife and extremism within its borders. So much so, that even the royal family can't keep a lid on it and is constantly having to deal with it. It is even debatable as to who/how many within the royal family is hedging their bets with both sides. Their fiery brand of Islam is well funded and would survive a change in government. To have them as the "leader" of the Arab world could backfire on the rest of the world.
Just another reason why the Middle East is such an armpit. Between Sunni and Shiite wanting to kill each other, both willing to war with Israel, its a three way cluster fudge and the US is neck deep in the middle trying to play all three ends of the stick. In the end, it will be the US that is the big loser, or you could argue, has been when we look at how much has been spent in blood and dollars which have yet to produce any measurable return on investments.
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Old 11-29-2010, 08:56 AM
 
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Well, targeting specific individuals is actually murder but you knew that, right?
One would think so.
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One would think so.
This "One" doesn't think so.

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Might make a good discussion for a thread, but I suspect I know what a poll would indicate.
There have been several threads on the issue, you'd be surprised at what they revealed especially from the nuke them until the glow crowd who are suddenly become adverse to the "kill them all and let god sort em out" school of thought.
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Old 11-29-2010, 09:00 AM
 
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This "One" doesn't think so.



There have been several threads on the issue, you'd be surprised at what they revealed especially from the nuke them until the glow crowd who are suddenly become adverse to the "kill them all and let god sort em out" school of thought.
I'll have to review some older threads if I have time today, because I suspect I would be surprised.

While I do have some personal moral objection to this idea, at the same time I must be practical, and truth of the matter is, if assassinating one radical would keep us from invading some X country, then I say bombs away.
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Old 11-29-2010, 09:11 AM
 
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I'll have to review some older threads if I have time today, because I suspect I would be surprised.
Let me save you some trouble.

Obama Invokes "states secrets" Privilege to Justify Assassination of American Citizen

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While I do have some personal moral objection to this idea, at the same time I must be practical, and truth of the matter is, if assassinating one radical would keep us from invading some X country, then I say bombs away.
Weird, but I can't find my own thread where I laid out the legal justification for such killings, although I find the legalistic hoops one must jump through to justify any killing to be more than a bit tortuous.
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Old 11-29-2010, 09:30 AM
 
Location: Texas
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Well, targeting specific individuals is actually murder but you knew that, right?
No, it's not murder unless their killing was unjustified and without cause. Even the Bible, and the qu'ran, allows killing in self-defense and for other worthy purposes.
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Old 11-29-2010, 09:35 AM
 
Location: Sinking in the Great Salt Lake
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suprise, suprise, but we've been engaged in a covert and very unconventional war against Iran for some time now:

Anti-Iran computer bug had powerful backers | World news | The Guardian
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Old 11-29-2010, 09:36 AM
 
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Oh, give me a break. I am no great fan of Israel, but Iran's President has sworn to destroy Israel and Israel has a right to defend itself. Iran is already engaged in a proxy war with Israel through Hamas and Hezbollah.

A few quotes for the President of Iran: "...we shall soon experience a world without the United States and Zionism," Israel is "heading toward annihilation,"

The quotes go on and on.

Pick another theme to condem Israel, but whining about Iran is absurd. After all, after 9/11 President Bush removed the decades long prohibition on political assassinations. The Obama Administration continues the Bush policy.
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Old 11-29-2010, 09:40 AM
 
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If Mossad did it, good for them. They need to do more of it.

Oh...I see you describe such a thing as an act of terrorism. How would you characterize the launching of rockets provided by Iran into Israeli cities by Hizbollah and Fatah? Is that an act of terrorism, or simply self-defense?
The acts of terrorism on one side do not justify the acts of terrorism on the side. It's one reason the Middle East remains one of the most unstable regions in the world. If the Iranians strongly believe Israel is behind these attacks do you think they are just going to sit back and do nothing?
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Old 11-29-2010, 09:43 AM
 
Location: By the sea, by the sea, by the beautiful sea
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No, it's not murder unless their killing was unjustified and without cause. Even the Bible, and the qu'ran, allows killing in self-defense and for other worthy purposes.
And who's the judge that pronounces sentence?
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