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Old 11-30-2010, 07:37 PM
 
Location: South East
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The Bush tax cuts should die.

The Bush tax cuts should stay in place!
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Old 12-01-2010, 01:25 PM
 
Location: Jonquil City (aka Smyrna) Georgia- by Atlanta
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The Bush tax cuts should stay in place!
No they shouldn't. First of all NOTHING Bush did should stay in place because everything he did is ILLEGIT because his Presidency was ILLEGITIMATE because he was not elected Constitutionally but appointed by the judiciary which has no Constitutional powers to appoint members to the Executive or Legislative branches of government.
Secondly they cost the treasury too much money in a time where we have 2 wars going on and high unemployment. We cannot keep digging the debt hole forever.
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Old 12-02-2010, 09:35 AM
 
Location: NE CT
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This audio shows very well how Senators feel about the process. The entire concept of a "Lame Duck" Congress is outdated and should be eliminated entirely. Either push the swearing in process closer to the elections in November, or push the elections closer to the current swearing in date. Either way, get rid of this "Lame Duck" crap because it is a waste of time, money, and efforts in the legislature. It makes no sense...oh wait, I am writing about the modern US government here.

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Old 12-02-2010, 09:53 AM
 
Location: Tennessee
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Why are the items being rushed through in the lame duck session? Why didn't they have the b*lls to vote on some of these things earlier in the year? It's not like no one knew the Bush tax cuts were expiring and the Dems were in the majority in the House and the Senate with a Dem perched in the White House. Why didn't they push the Dream Act then? Why did they wait to vote to fund the government? Is it because most of these things are UNPOPULAR with their constituents so they didn't want it hanging over their heads on Election Day?

Isn't everything that's passed in any lame duck session just a "sc*ew you we're doing it anyway" to their constituents?
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Old 12-02-2010, 10:00 AM
 
Location: NC
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How are the Republicans blocking without a majority ?
It is the Senate. Need 60 votes to stop filibusters.

They REALLY need to change the rules back where someone has to actually stay and talk while they "filibuster."

The current rules are amazingly weak and disruptive, plus it is a lot of fun watch a Senator read "Gone with the Wind" or something similar for 72 hours.
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Old 12-02-2010, 01:12 PM
 
Location: Southcentral Kansas
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It is the Senate. Need 60 votes to stop filibusters.

They REALLY need to change the rules back where someone has to actually stay and talk while they "filibuster."

The current rules are amazingly weak and disruptive, plus it is a lot of fun watch a Senator read "Gone with the Wind" or something similar for 72 hours.
I always felt the same way about filibustering during the Dems make up the minority days of the early years of this century. Those filibusters you mention were only threatened since the present way of filibustering, established to make the Dems happy when they were a minority, since no debate was taking place during those "filibusters". Today the minority just says we are filibustering and they go on to the next thing without any debate or attempts to break the filibuster.

I liked those old time filibusters where the majority brought in their cots and slept on site and had their food brought in. Those were the days of reading from the DC phone directory or from menus about how to make pot liquor and other fool things like that. Some of those old boys must have been pretty tough to stand up there boring everybody for hours on end. The cable news channels could really have some fun showing us those old boys going at it.
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Old 12-02-2010, 01:14 PM
 
Location: Fort Worth Texas
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Bennet (D-CO) complained to a female colleauge (who was off-camera) while other senators voted that the Senate's process was "rigged." He also complained that there had been no advance discussion of the Democrats' lame duck agenda before the session began.

"There's nothing about -- because it's all rigged," Bennet said. "I mean, the whole conversation is rigged. The fact that we don’t get to a discussion before the break about what we’re going to do in the lame duck -- is just rigged. This stuff’s rigged."


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r7fxDhAX8II
It says it all
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