U.S. CitiesCity-Data Forum Index
Go Back   City-Data Forum > General Forums > Politics and Other Controversies
 [Register]
Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
View detailed profile (Advanced) or search
site with Google Custom Search

Search Forums  (Advanced)
Reply Start New Thread
 
Old 12-01-2010, 08:08 AM
 
Location: Central Maine
4,645 posts, read 5,352,171 times
Reputation: 4793

Advertisements

The mandate to buy health insurance included in federal healthcare reform legislation is constitutional, a federal judge in Virginia ruled Tuesday.

U.S. District Judge Norman Moon rejected a challenge by Liberty University, The Hill reported. Liberty in Lynchburg, founded by the Rev. Jerry Falwell, is a private, Christian, politically conservative institution.

Moon, appointed by President Bill Clinton, is the second judge to uphold the healthcare plan. A third judge rejected a challenge on the grounds the plaintiffs did not have standing.
Judge Upholds Obama healthcare plan

The full decision can be found here: http://www.vawd.uscourts.gov/OPINION...YVGEITHNER.PDF
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message

 
Old 12-01-2010, 08:23 AM
 
69,372 posts, read 53,704,613 times
Reputation: 9357
Quote:
Originally Posted by GreenGene View Post
A second Federal judge finds individual mandate for health care constitutional
Thats not what was ruled, it was ruled they didnt have jurisdiction to file a case and if you had read the court reply you would have seen in fact the judge said the opposite in some parts of the reply.

"I find lack standing"

"Defendants argument is unconvincing"

And the defendants claim that its a tax is not true because "Specifically Congress chose not to label them a tax"

And he admits to "not resolve contests surrounding the facts"

Last edited by pghquest; 12-01-2010 at 08:31 AM..
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 12-01-2010, 08:25 AM
 
Location: Land of debt and Corruption
7,526 posts, read 6,979,527 times
Reputation: 2841
This just further highlights the stupidity of the HCB. Liberal mentality: Let's tie up our court systems and litigate this crap legislation for decades, but it's okay because my side won and shoved unpopular and unconstitutional legislation on all of us.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 12-01-2010, 08:28 AM
 
1,011 posts, read 847,736 times
Reputation: 467
I, as a citizen, am now required to purchase a private good such as health insurance? The judge can blow it out of his ass
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 12-01-2010, 09:08 AM
 
Location: Chicagoland
41,314 posts, read 38,535,194 times
Reputation: 7106
Yeah, and two others have found the lawsuits can go forward. The big one being that suit joined by 20+ states.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 12-01-2010, 09:15 AM
 
69,372 posts, read 53,704,613 times
Reputation: 9357
Quote:
Originally Posted by sanrene View Post
Yeah, and two others have found the lawsuits can go forward. The big one being that suit joined by 20+ states.
There are issues with jurisdiction with all of ours with the exception of the state challenges. At some point all of these little challenges, including my own, will be simply stopped when the state challenges hits the Supreme Court..
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 12-01-2010, 09:15 AM
 
19,489 posts, read 13,221,982 times
Reputation: 4887
Quote:
Originally Posted by GreenGene View Post
The mandate to buy health insurance included in federal healthcare reform legislation is constitutional, a federal judge in Virginia ruled Tuesday.

U.S. District Judge Norman Moon rejected a challenge by Liberty University, The Hill reported. Liberty in Lynchburg, founded by the Rev. Jerry Falwell, is a private, Christian, politically conservative institution.

Moon, appointed by President Bill Clinton, is the second judge to uphold the healthcare plan. A third judge rejected a challenge on the grounds the plaintiffs did not have standing.
Judge Upholds Obama healthcare plan

The full decision can be found here: http://www.vawd.uscourts.gov/OPINION...YVGEITHNER.PDF
This is just wrong. It is not constitutional that as a function of citizenship, I must be forced to sign a health insurance contract with another citizen and pay upwards of $1,200 a month for his services, and if i do not sign and pay, i can face federal prosecution. how long before some democrat thinks that it is paramount, that as a citizen I must buy a Chevy Volt and install solar panels on the roof of my home or business?
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 12-01-2010, 09:22 AM
 
Location: Central Maine
4,645 posts, read 5,352,171 times
Reputation: 4793
Quote:
Originally Posted by whatyousay View Post
This just further highlights the stupidity of the HCB. Liberal mentality: Let's tie up our court systems and litigate this crap legislation for decades, but it's okay because my side won and shoved unpopular and unconstitutional legislation on all of us.
Liberal mentality? Are you under the impression that liberals are filing lawsuits against the health care reform law? Liberals like .... Jerry Falwell?
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 12-01-2010, 09:28 AM
 
69,372 posts, read 53,704,613 times
Reputation: 9357
Quote:
Originally Posted by Wapasha View Post
This is just wrong. It is not constitutional that as a function of citizenship, I must be forced to sign a health insurance contract with another citizen and pay upwards of $1,200 a month for his services, and if i do not sign and pay, i can face federal prosecution. how long before some democrat thinks that it is paramount, that as a citizen I must buy a Chevy Volt and install solar panels on the roof of my home or business?
Any minute now we'll get some foolish Democrat here tell you that there is no penalty for not buying healthcare (we've had this discussion before) because they ignore that this is a "tax" and not paying your taxes = jail. They will cite parts of the bill saying there is no penalty while ignoring the tax laws saying tax avoidance is a crime..
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 12-01-2010, 09:30 AM
 
69,372 posts, read 53,704,613 times
Reputation: 9357
Quote:
Originally Posted by GreenGene View Post
Liberal mentality? Are you under the impression that liberals are filing lawsuits against the health care reform law? Liberals like .... Jerry Falwell?
Its the liberals filing responses to the lawsuits tying up the court system with a law they knew up front would be challenged...
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Please register to post and access all features of our very popular forum. It is free and quick. Over $68,000 in prizes has already been given out to active posters on our forum. Additional giveaways are planned.

Detailed information about all U.S. cities, counties, and zip codes on our site: City-data.com.


Reply
Please update this thread with any new information or opinions. This open thread is still read by thousands of people, so we encourage all additional points of view.

Quick Reply
Message:

Over $104,000 in prizes was already given out to active posters on our forum and additional giveaways are planned!

Go Back   City-Data Forum > General Forums > Politics and Other Controversies
Similar Threads
Follow City-Data.com founder on our Forum or

All times are GMT -6.

© 2005-2018, Advameg, Inc.

City-Data.com - Archive 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 32, 33, 34, 35 - Top