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Old 05-28-2014, 05:36 PM
 
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Why is it that liberals always assume academic and intellectual superiority? I can guarantee you that I have more education, and almost certainly a higher IQ, yet I am a conservative. I guess it is probably because I used to be poor and have seen the destructive and ill advised policies of liberalism by "well meaning" practitioners.

I must say truthfully that I have never in my life encountered a liberal personally who was smarter or better educated than me. I have met many conservatives (many of my college and med school profs) who were much more intelligent and had far superior academic credentials. I have, however, met many, many liberals who thought they were intelligent, but were not.
And you're proving your superior intellect by making a ridiculous generalization...

 
Old 05-28-2014, 05:37 PM
 
Location: NJ
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The area's that are blue on your map represent about 15 million people, there are only 19 million people in the entire state.
Here, i will help you out


Blades of grass and cows do not have a right to vote, people do.

stop arguing on a bases of land area, it makes no sense.
 
Old 05-28-2014, 05:41 PM
 
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I don't think he understand that "percentages" win elections not sheer numbers... 14.5% of poor in New York State doesn't explain why the entire state votes blue, the same way 20% of the poor in Mississippi doesn't explain why the state votes red. Lol



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The area's that are blue on your map represent about 15 million people, there are only 19 million people in the entire state.
Here, i will help you out


Blades of grass and cows do not have a right to vote, people do.

stop arguing on a bases of land area, it makes no sense.
 
Old 05-28-2014, 05:48 PM
 
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Let's keep this in mind:

In FY 2009, black families comprised 33.3% of TANF (Temporary Assistance for Needy Families) families, non-Hispanic white families comprised 31.2%, and 28.8% were Hispanic.

"Characteristics and Financial Circumstances of TANF Recipients – Fiscal Year 2009". United States Department of Health and Human Services.









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None of those things are fact. At best you are arguing comparative income, but everyone being poorer in the South does not make your argument true, in fact it debunks it and shows the major flaws in it.

And the majority of African Americans live in the South and in red/purple states,not blue ones.
 
Old 05-29-2014, 06:36 AM
 
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You obviously have never been outside of your own city and probably live in the outer suburbs. Keep your misinformed, ignorant opinions to yourself.
Actually, I've lived all over the U.S. (though, yes, for decades in Illinois when I was raising my family), have travelled the world, and now live on a beach on the east coast.

Read the last paragraph of this post to learn more about why I so strongly believe the way I do:
http://www.city-data.com/forum/34986548-post165.html
 
Old 05-29-2014, 06:47 AM
 
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How was the 6.8% of the poor in NJ...
Right off the bat, your numbers are wrong.

Poverty in N.J. reaches 52-year high, new report shows
 
Old 05-29-2014, 06:50 AM
 
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Again, how in heaven did the 11.5% of poor in Illinois outvoted the remaining 88.5% of population of that state?
Again, your numbers are wrong.

Illinois Poverty Rate 2012: One-Third Of State's Residents Considered Poor According To New Report


And did you not see the maps I posted? The only blue areas of Illinois are Chicago and east of St. Louis. You figure it out.

Hint: it has to do with population and high poverty rates in the most populous areas.
 
Old 05-29-2014, 06:59 AM
 
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Do you realize that percentage-wise there is more poor people in the south than anywhere else?
That's mathematically impossible. Here's why: Poverty is more concentrated in cities. There simply aren't large enough cities in red states with enough of a population to outnumber the poor in blue state cities. The three most populous cities are NYC (8.34 million), LA (3.86 million), and Chicago (2.71 million). Poverty rates: 19.9%, 21.2%, and 22.1%, respectively. All 3 of the most populous cities are in blue states. There are significantly more poor people living in blue states. Percentage-wise, the majority of poor Americans live in large cities in blue states.



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Old 05-29-2014, 07:04 AM
 
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Ill give you a map for that state as well so you can understand why you are so wrong.
Seems to me you're making my point. The high percentage of poor in the high population cities keep electing Democrats. How's that working out for them? Are fewer on public assistance? Are their children getting better K-12 educations?
 
Old 05-29-2014, 07:08 AM
 
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None of those things are fact.
Indeed, they are fact:

The most segregated schools may not be in the states you’d expect - The Washington Post

Study: Income Inequality Most Pronounced in Blue States
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