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Old 12-05-2010, 02:58 PM
 
Location: Jonquil City (aka Smyrna) Georgia- by Atlanta
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They went all the way to the Supreme Court and the Court effectively took away the last vestige of property rights ruling that the government has the right to take away your property and give it to somebody else for any reason that they wish.
They took Kelo's property to give it to a developer for condos and shops. And what did the developer do? Well he went out of business. And there sits the land on which dozens of people who did not want to move- were forced to vacate. Nothing but overgrown weeds and rotting structures!

Conn. land taken from homeowners still undeveloped

BTW I do not consider Breit Bart a credible source but I saw other sources that verify it and he has the best essay on it.
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Old 12-05-2010, 03:07 PM
 
Location: On the Chesapeake
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Kelo was probably the worst Supreme Court decision of the last dacade or so. I was at a MD Municipal League convention right after the ruling came down and it was the talk of people there. Of course there was the group, including me, who could see the absolute probability of abuse and the other group that was salivating over the implicatons. That was just the elected officials. The developers were just going crazy.

Of course, the MD Legislature took it up in the next session to enact safeguards, but those never got out of Committee (no surprise since so many of the members are real estate attornies) and the push kind of went away.

A side note, I predicted that developer in the case would never complete the project.
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Old 12-05-2010, 03:28 PM
 
Location: SARASOTA, FLORIDA
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This is the second thread that you have brought his up in today.

In the other thread you called it a republican supreme court but in this thread you left it out.

Which way do you want it?

I nicely proved you wrong in the other thread as you tried to fool people in thinking something that was not true at all.

Look up the case and who voted for and against it before you make wide range assumptions like you have.

With Obama in the WH you had better hide everything you own as he believes the government has the right to take or do anything they want to you.
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Old 12-05-2010, 04:27 PM
 
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With Obama in the WH you had better hide everything you own as he believes the government has the right to take or do anything they want to you.
But Obama is not a Democrat, or a liberal or progressive. Obama is a right wing neo-con continuing the Bush-Cheny agenda. He lied to get elected.
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Old 12-05-2010, 06:31 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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Well here in Texas we added an amendment to our Constitution to protect a person's land..November 2009.

Texas Proposition 11 (2009) - Ballotpedia

81% voted FOR changing our Constitution.

This is what our Constitution says now:
  • Specifically prohibit the taking of private property to give to another private entity for the purpose of economic development or enhanced tax revenue.
  • Limit the use and ownership of property taken by eminent domain to either the state or the public at large
  • Require new entities seeking the power of eminent domain to be approved by a two-thirds vote of the Legislature
  • Require condemnation for urban blight to address each particular property
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Old 12-05-2010, 06:33 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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With Obama in the WH you had better hide everything you own as he believes the government has the right to take or do anything they want to you.
No, people need to get their state representatives to amend their state Constitutions like Texas did. FIGHT BACK at the state level.
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Old 12-05-2010, 07:35 PM
 
Location: Jonquil City (aka Smyrna) Georgia- by Atlanta
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Originally Posted by Sunny-Days90 View Post
This is the second thread that you have brought his up in today.

In the other thread you called it a republican supreme court but in this thread you left it out.

Which way do you want it?

I nicely proved you wrong in the other thread as you tried to fool people in thinking something that was not true at all.

Look up the case and who voted for and against it before you make wide range assumptions like you have.

With Obama in the WH you had better hide everything you own as he believes the government has the right to take or do anything they want to you.
The other thread was about a different case in Indiana.
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Old 12-05-2010, 10:20 PM
 
Location: SARASOTA, FLORIDA
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No, people need to get their state representatives to amend their state Constitutions like Texas did. FIGHT BACK at the state level.

I agree.

Obama and his band of thugs are trying hard to shut down the states from having any power.

Thank goodness for Texas, as they at least are fighting Obama on many state rights issues.

We need more states to fight this admin as they try to limit every right a state and a person has.
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Old 12-05-2010, 10:29 PM
 
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No one's mentioned the confiscation of a persons property justified by a drug bust.

There went the 5th Amendment.
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Old 12-05-2010, 10:31 PM
 
Location: San Diego, CA
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I actually think eminent domain is a good thing and a tool the government sometimes needs. Yes, it can be abused (and courts have been quick to strike down eminent domain abuse) but it's hard to see most of the recent urban renewal projects in the US going ahead without eminent domain.
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