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I don't know the IP, that site is the first one when googling Wikileaks.
When you place your mouse pointer over your link, look at the status bar, instead of a URL like (www.wikileaks.com), you get http:\\numbers.numbers.numbers.numbers. those numbers are called an IP address. If you have an Ip address, you do not nead a URL. The ip address is what us unix people used to use to telnet to internet sites before there was a world wide web and graphic interfaces.
Really? At home, my computer's IP isn't spoofed, but you don't know what it is. Since I am on a router that provided NAT, MY machine IP isn't what YOU see.
MANY people on PPPoE networks are on private networks, and you don't have THEIR ip's either, just the router that provides their NAT.
Are you sure you're in IT? As I read more and more responses posted by you the comments get even more ludicrous.
As an IT professional with over 20 years experience I will have to say that reading some of your replies has been entertaining.
NAT isn't meant for "hiding" IP's. That's a translation meant to reduce the total number of public IP's necessary. Geez, even a complete newbie to tech knows that. The point of NAT isn't to provide any sort of security, it's to make it so you don't need 6 public addresses if you've got 2 laptops, 2 desktops, and 2 video game systems connected to the Internet (using a home example). Christ, I outlined it like twice in this thread already, and still you miss it? Your only defense in this case is if you completely misunderstood what that other guy was talking about when he was trying to describe a spoofed IP. I think the only thing you have 20 years experience with is picking up a term or two every time you have to call Help Desk because you boned your system at work.
I'm not sure which one I find more amusing at this point: This little gem you provided, or the claim that you're a "member" of "the black hats", which isn't a group at all...and when called on it, you tried claiming that you meant the security conferences, which is also not membership based or a group, but rather simply a series of events. Oh wait I know....you're an event planner for the conference organizers, and you picked up an acronym here or there while trying not to fall asleep during the actual speeches themselves after you did your part by getting the curtains put up and handing out the brochures.
NAT isn't meant for "hiding" IP's. That's a translation meant to reduce the total number of public IP's necessary. Geez, even a complete newbie to tech knows that. The point of NAT isn't to provide any sort of security, it's to make it so you don't need 6 public addresses if you've got 2 laptops, 2 desktops, and 2 video game systems connected to the Internet (using a home example). Christ, I outlined it like twice in this thread already, and still you miss it? Your only defense in this case is if you completely misunderstood what that other guy was talking about when he was trying to describe a spoofed IP. I think the only thing you have 20 years experience with is picking up a term or two every time you have to call Help Desk because you boned your system at work.
I'm not sure which one I find more amusing at this point: This little gem you provided, or the claim that you're a "member" of "the black hats", which isn't a group at all...and when called on it, you tried claiming that you meant the security conferences, which is also not membership based or a group, but rather simply a series of events. Oh wait I know....you're an event planner for the conference organizers, and you picked up an acronym here or there while trying not to fall asleep during the actual speeches themselves after you did your part by getting the curtains put up and handing out the brochures.
Again, you show your lack of knowledge. It provides for BOTH, reduced use of public IP addresses, and it is used to provide computer security. In certain cases the use of port forwarding forwards requests or access to specific computers based on ports, while denying open access to a "public ip", and in other cases, it completely hides computers because by using nat, an outside computer cannot initiate communication with the translated address, again unless there is some type of port forwarding to facilitate it.
Next, I am the help desk. I designed computer security protocols for the Navy, for C2 secure systems while I was on active duty, was in charge of networks for almost 100 financial institutions, and I designed several ISP's still in operation, and still to this day, have never suffered a successful attack, or data loss. Yes Virginia, I also ensured all data was backed up to an multiple off site facilities so that recovery time would be minimal.
Lastly, I have been an attendee off and on since 1997, of the Black Hat Conference, and there are those of us who go all the way back to the founding days, and call ourselves black hats. You may not like it that you are not a part of our little fraternity, but that's ok, we may invite you for some comic relief.
It because of people like ourselves, and people like Steve Gibson that we have firewalls that block unknown OUTBOUND connections on computers in addition to inbound connections. It's because of people like us that these connections are not just blocked, but also blackholed so that the other computer doesn't even know it was blocked and can act accordingly on that information, but that there is no response whatsoever so that they don't know that they even reached something.
Last edited by Darkatt; 12-08-2010 at 12:44 PM..
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