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Old 12-06-2010, 10:03 PM
 
Location: Montana
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Thank you for spending the majority of your time arguing issues. The more you are angry at each other, the more of the limelight is off of us, and we can get our goals accomplished at your expense. We love the fact that you are too busy fighting and arguing with each other, because we can get our plans completed with little opposition.

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Old 12-06-2010, 10:33 PM
 
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For those who understand, no explanation is needed. For those who do not understand, no explanation is possible.
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Old 12-06-2010, 10:40 PM
 
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Was just having a wonderful conversation today on evolutionary psychology and someone tossed the following link up from yahoo news.

Now You See It: Neuroscientists Reveal Magicians' Secrets
Now You See It: Neuroscientists Reveal Magicians' Secrets - Yahoo! News

Now you are probably wondering what the hell does this have to do with anything. Well the premise of the article discusses how the brain by design is meant to focus on a "thing" and that magicians employ the slight of hand to divert attention away from the trick. The better the diversion, the more magical it seems.

Well during our discussion, we asked, how hard would it really be to employ such tactics in the realm of politics or economics, or even religion for that matter. Its an interesting article and when you consider that in a democratic form of government where the people will only take so much oppression or curtailing of rights, how does one manage to govern (control) the people when what you may need to do is contrary to public opinion or desire. First thing I think of is, magic.
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Old 12-07-2010, 02:22 AM
 
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Who profits from strife-- it's never the people fighting.

No more parades for the troops when they're coming home and killing themselves?
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Old 12-07-2010, 07:33 PM
 
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Who profits from strife-- it's never the people fighting.

No more parades for the troops when they're coming home and killing themselves?
One could certainly get conspiratorial in such manners of thought, but at some level there is, I believe, an absolute level of truth residing in the undercurrent of the theme.

When we look at the definition of government for instance.

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Definition of GOVERNMENT
1
: the act or process of governing; specifically : authoritative direction or control
Authoritative direction or control, but what is obviously less understood is how. Sure, we have our basic government structure, laws, courts, social contracts, etc... but in order to maintain control over large populations of people, I would turn to how the field of marketing works. Edward Bernays, please come to the white phone.

This isn't even something I believe to be evil, or nefarious, or dubious, but in fact is more like prudence and reasonable.

As you and the Op elude to, that if people are busy bickering amongst each other, they are not focusing on the magician's other hand, the one actually performing the trick. This is also one of the aspects of "the common man" among a population in which Plato referred to. It is also one of the foundational aspects of the intellectual branch of Neoconservatism (the Platonist) is that trickery, or magic, or slight of hand, or even an out right lie can be qualified when it is done in the best interest of the people.

I, along with many others have referred to this concept in our educational systems by various angles of approach. If the population is merely marginally educated and in some respects ignorant of the more sophisticated aspects of state craft and governing, then would it not make the job of those governing all the much easier? After all, how many wives or husbands have called their spouses while they were engrossed in a TV movie, and they just waved their hand with, "whatever dear, whatever you say" (now stop bugging me)

I'm sure we have have mentioned before, but in case folks are not familar with an awesome documentary, The Century of the Self The Century Of Self Part 1 (of 4) Happiness Machines

It is a must watch for anyone interested in the psychological and sociological basis of marketing, propaganda and public relations.
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Old 12-08-2010, 06:37 AM
 
Location: Prepperland
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