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What do you think Social Justice is all about? Wealth Redistribution? Those are plans to REDUCE our standard of living. It has been underway for quite a while and this administration is taking it a step further. THAT'S what we should be concerned about.
There is a wealth redistribution alright. The wealth is being redistributed up to the wealthy while the poverty rate is climbing in America and the middle class is disappearing. So many US citizens have been so brainwashed! You think the wealthy will rescue this country?
So the top two percent get to keep their tax cuts during a time of historic deficit and unemployment levels. What does this say?
1. The Republicans were successful in holding 98% of the American public and unemployed workers hostage for their sake of their rich benefactors.
2. Since it has been documented to death that only a few percent of small business owners who tax their income through personal taxes as business income overlap with the top two percent, this will do virtually nothing for small business and employment growth.
3. Since most of the top wealthy folks in this country are not going to spend that incremental piece of cash they get, the impact on the economy is going to be nothing to write about.
4. For this minimal gain, we just added another $700B to the deficit, which is nearing the magnitude of Obama's old stimulus plan.
5. Since both Republicans and Democrats have helped Big Business for years to outsource millions of well-paying jobs overseas, and since there are now simply not enough jobs for those previously employed Americans to earn a living, we are basically just continuing to concentrate wealth in the hands of the very top few wealthy hands while we build a massive underclass of impoverished people - and then blame them for "being lazy".
I say all of this as a person in one of those top two percent of households, which I frankly can't even believe that I am. I have no problem with rich people, and I think they deserve to keep being rich...but this used to be a nation that also provided some opportunity for middle and lower class people, too. That's no longer the case; we've become an oligarchy.
1. Every American is entitled to the same rights and treatment, regardless of income. Holding a particular segment of the population "hostage' for the benefit of the rest is tyranny. I pay over $500k to the feds every year and I think that is quite enough.
2. MANY buisnesses are "S" corps that will benefit from this lack of a tax increase. Many jobs will be saved as a result and we all know that Obama is all about "saved jobs".
3. We are not "getting" extra money. It is simply a vote to not increase taxes. The money I make is not the property of the federal government in the first place.
4. We added NOTHING to the deficit. Again- all liberals seem to assume that the income of every American is the property of the government and that they "allow" us to keep a componant of what we make. The opposite is true. The income of the Americans is first thier own. Give the feds more money and what will they do? Blow it.
Can you point out ONE TIME in the last 60 years in which the feds have used an increase in tax revenue to reduce the debt? That answer is NEVER.
5. Thanks Clinton for outsourcing. He is the father of the modern despair of the manufacturing sector and has helped to put more Americans out of work than any other president in US history. Yet, the liberals love him.
Want jobs to come back to the US?
1. Repeal NAFTA
2. Repeal China most favored nation trade status
3. Reduce corporate taxes to levels on par with the rest of the world
4. reduce corporate regulations which hamper the conduct of US buisness
5. ban class action law suits
6. Cut social entitlements which must be funded by private industry through increased taxes and expenditures
In short, reverse liberal policy of the last 40 years.
You are right- work harder. Reverse liberal policy and help to restore prosperity.
OK! The nation is in the clear and prosperity is at hand. Now that the tax cuts have been extended to the top 2% and basicly nothing has changed for the rich, I'm sure that they will start hiring all those people they said they would. This is huge! Now everybody can go back to work again! What a great day for our country! They said the economy would tank if the cuts were not extended as they do all the hiring. Well, their bluff has been called. Start hiring. I expect the unemployment rate to drop 2.....maybe 3 percentage points in the next couple months. Hooray!!!!! Hooray!!!!!!...............(fat chance)
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Originally Posted by GregW
I can only hope the Republicans implement their entire agenda by eliminating all taxes on the top 1% and stopping all the social, stimulus and unemployment spending starting in January 2011. That will teach the rest of the American population to expect anything from their government and to stop defying their betters.
Isnt it wonderful when the left has to resort to just making up where the other side stands on positions? Its a pure sign of desperation...
yes, yes, ridicule all you want and ignore reality. It does nothing but make you feel better and shows the lack of ability to discuss topics like an adult.
Republican, Scott Brown [R-MA] singlehandedly shut them down with a refusal to consider the proposal unless the cost is paid for. 2.5 million unemployed Americans are left with out needed aid just in time for the holidays.
Yes, the GOP knows the money is sitting there, its Democrats who refuse to allow it to be spent on the unemployed and want to borrow AGAIN, adding costs to the debt, which essentially is borrowing the same money twice.
You must get a headache from slapping your head so often when you argue so often about points that are totally irrelevant!
Actually that is not obvious since they believe the way to reduce the debt is to expand the economy.
We will not reduce debt until we address entitlements.
You can expand the economy by taxing people to death and them give it to the unions as Obama stimulus has done or try letting people keep their money
Gee, why didn't these tax cuts work during the last 10 years to expand our economy?
You must get a headache from slapping your head so often when you argue so often about points that are totally irrelevant!
I get a headache listening to people whine about the debt (as you did here) and then ask for more borrowing to increase that debt even though the money is sitting in the bank... Sorry but its not at all irrelevant, you just choose to ignore it..
slappy face has got to return for this one and he brought a buddy along as well
Here's a big difference between now and the WWII years: what the government is spending the money on. Do you thnk we should sacrifice and sweat and strive so Obama can pump up the pension plans of overpaid state and local employees? It's not exactly as noble a purpose as stopping the Nazis or reversing Japan's domination of Asia.
You missed the point because you just wanted to spin what I posted to blame Obama. As an American, have you demanded American manufactured products? Did you support the Bush/Cheney administration after the truth was revealed that we were lied into a war and were in wars on two fronts while tax breaks were given to the top percent (which is unheard of during a war, let alone two)? Are you one of the people that are up in arms about a Mosque in NYC while other countries (including some in the middle east) hold our debt and own us? Did you vote for a representative that has a history of being in bed with lobbyists? Are you in favor of cutting the defense budget that is enriching private contractors? Do you support companies that outsource and defend for thier right to do so? Are you someone that agrees that corporations are people and should have the ability to buy elections? Do you believe that we should have Campaign Finance Reform?
You cannot make a blanket statement without taking everything into account and you are oversimplifying an issue.
Gee, why didn't these tax cuts work during the last 10 years to expand our economy?
They did.. how many months in a row did the economy prosper? We had unemployment below 5%, which is considered full employment, we had deficits of $150B, we had 10,200,000 new jobs created, we had gdp growth
Seriously, were you asleep for all of these years?
I get a headache listening to people whine about the debt (as you did here) and then ask for more borrowing to increase that debt even though the money is sitting in the bank... Sorry but its not at all irrelevant, you just choose to ignore it..
slappy face has got to return for this one and he brought a buddy along as well
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