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Old 12-09-2010, 10:11 PM
 
Location: Southcentral Kansas
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He referring to the American legacy of breaking treaties with Native-American tribes and confiscating the land of Native-Americans once their land was deamed of value to the United States Government. He believes correctly or incorrectly that some Native-American land is of value for generating green energy. If the historical pattern holds true, then instead of allowing Native-Americans to develop the land; some excuse will be found to deprive them of the now valuable land. He is stating that that should not happen this time.

It means when those who have been oppressed under the old order finally gain power they should not use the tools (ie the whip) of the old order. However, they do need to overcome their reluctance to govern and assume positions of authority.
Yep, reparations.

Yep, oppressed and oppressors. Now that is the very thing that the far left is trying to push.

Hey, btw, in doing some research about Van Jones I found a very interesting thing about a blogger being kicked out of the meeting where Jones was to speak at Washington University in St. Louis. Very interesting since all he seemed to be doing was taping and there were all kinds of cameras waiting for the "show" to begin but the "nice" lady told the blogger that she would make all the others take down their cameras. The problem was that the blogger was forced outside before she told the others anything. His First Amendment writes were certainly violated that day.

Oh Moderator cut: language was that whole experience funny. Oh well, the progs managed to get rid of the guy before he caught anything from Jones other than the statement that Fox is Satan and that Satan is everywhere. Funny.

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Old 12-09-2010, 10:24 PM
 
Location: Alameda, CA
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Yep, reparations.

Yep, oppressed and oppressors. Now that is the very thing that the far left is trying to push.

Hey, btw, in doing some research about Van Jones I found a very interesting thing about a blogger being kicked out of the meeting where Jones was to speak at Washington University in St. Louis. Very interesting since all he seemed to be doing was taping and there were all kinds of cameras waiting for the "show" to begin but the "nice" lady told the blogger that she would make all the others take down their cameras. The problem was that the blogger was forced outside before she told the others anything. His First Amendment writes were certainly violated that day.

Oh Moderator cut: language was that whole experience funny. Oh well, the progs managed to get rid of the guy before he caught anything from Jones other than the statement that Fox is Satan and that Satan is everywhere. Funny.
Its not reparations when you get to hold onto your own land.

I watched the videos from Washington University event. The official cameras were from the law school. A private University is under no obligation to allow private individuals to film their events. Do you suppose Beck would have allowed private individuals to bring in cameras to film his Pittsburgh event? I don't think so. There is no first amendment issue on private property.

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Old 12-10-2010, 07:39 AM
 
Location: By the sea, by the sea, by the beautiful sea
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But, but, but this man is one of your people. I guess you don't know who Van Jones is, huh.
My people?

My people are my family and friends, he is neither.

I guess you don't know what you're talking about
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Old 12-10-2010, 07:42 AM
 
Location: By the sea, by the sea, by the beautiful sea
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Jones talked about being in the White House as a czar for 6 months in that video. Actually he was talking to a far left group about what they have to do to finish their take over of our government.
Do you have a point other than that there is delusional crap on both sides of the aisle?
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Old 12-10-2010, 08:59 AM
 
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Do you have a point other than that there is delusional crap on both sides of the aisle?
Are you saying that Van Jones was lying when he said that the POTUS was fully committed to their "cause"?
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Old 12-10-2010, 09:25 AM
 
Location: South Fla
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Where did he say he was trying to overthrow the American Government? He is talking about advocating for his political beliefs.
Do you think Van Jones wants America to continue to be a capitalist country?
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Old 12-10-2010, 09:27 AM
 
Location: Sunshine state
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I think that it is very interesting but scary as hell to think about. It is happening all over the world today and I see very much of it in this link.
INSIDE OUT Van Jones: Grab the Whip, Run the Plantation, Take Media & Power From Mean, Dumb Republicans | The Blaze
Oh, C'mon..! Even Bill O'Reiley dismissed this immediately when Glen Beck mentioned it to him last night on his interview.
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Old 12-10-2010, 09:33 AM
 
Location: On Top
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Oh, C'mon..! Even Bill O'Reiley dismissed this immediately when Glen Beck mentioned it to him last night on his interview.
I saw that too, gotta love how Bill O makes Beck look like the idiot he is!
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Old 12-10-2010, 09:43 AM
 
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......... So if you are looking for folks who think like Mr. Jones, you need not look any further.
So are you, like Jones, a Communist?
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Old 12-10-2010, 09:47 AM
 
Location: South Fla
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When you have people running around yelling about taking back "their country". And who call Obama a socialist out to destroy the country. I don't need a divining stick to tell me who my enemies are. So if you are looking for folks who think like Mr. Jones, you need not look any further.
Are you a communist?
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