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Old 12-10-2010, 09:45 AM
 
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In the bigger scope of things..they are not really that sensitive; more embarassing and shows corruption, greed and much bribery going on rather than war plans or strategies.

Over 5 million people have access to those documents..over 5 million people. The government is too big to manage itself IMO.
I think I agree with you that most of the leaks & "top secrets" are really not that sensitive; just embarassing stuff. But what about the military plans/strategies? Was none of that leaked? And if it was, why can't or won't the government better protect it?

Can you explain your statement about "over 5 million people" having access to "those documents." Which documents are you referring to - the diplomatic secrets or the military plan/strategy secrets? Are you saying that over 5 million people have consensual access to this stuff? And, upon what do you base this statement? Thanks. (I am genuinely interested in your response. I have read many of your posts and respect your knowledge and tempered opinions.)
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Old 12-10-2010, 10:08 AM
 
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Yes. I believe it is. If you look at the Van Jones video,posted yesterday (Top Down Bottom Up Inside Out) it identifies the need to control the Media in order for any real change to occur.

It is also bizarre that all the focus is on Assange rather than on the private who apparently obtained the information. Why isn't there more outrage at how our government can't better protect this "highly classified" secret information? That is where the focus should be. Not on the publishing of it. Something is just not right, here and there is more than meets the eye.

Hopefully, Americans will maintain their cool and not succumb to outrageous calls for more censorship.
It is bizarre that there is no focus on the higher ups who had to leak it to the private. You really don't think the traitor worked alone to get that volume of classified documents do you?

No coincidence that no one is publicly following the funding trail for Assange and Wiki-leaks. The whole thing is smoke and mirrors, a sham, a set-up long in the making for a crisis whose answer was crafted long ago, media/internet/communications censorship by the federal government.

Follow the money and it circles right back to Obama's puppet master.
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Old 12-10-2010, 10:14 AM
 
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It is bizarre that there is no focus on the higher ups who had to leak it to the private. You really don't think the traitor worked alone to get that volume of classified documents do you?

No coincidence that no one is publicly following the funding trail for Assange and Wiki-leaks. The whole thing is smoke and mirrors, a sham, a set-up long in the making for a crisis whose answer was crafted long ago, media/internet/communications censorship by the federal government.

Follow the money and it circles right back to Obama's puppet master.
I agree. I wonder how many Americans are on to this and will not succumb to acquising to the manufactured need for censorship? We should do a poll. But I'm not sure these boards are the most balanced place to do it.
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Old 12-10-2010, 10:20 AM
 
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Don't kid yourself, many Americans like the idea of censorship, but not the word. They prefer 'restrictions'. Americans prefer an authoritarian government and a population where no one steps out of line. So, to introduce censorship into America should be relatively easy.
Americans will buy anything that is labeled 'necessary for national security' and protection from attack. Americans are also saps enough to buy anything which is anti-communist.
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Old 12-10-2010, 10:23 AM
 
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Don't kid yourself, many Americans like the idea of censorship, but not the word. They prefer 'restrictions'. Americans prefer an authoritarian government and a population where no one steps out of line. So, to introduce censorship into America should be relatively easy.
Americans will buy anything that is labeled 'necessary for national security' and protection from attack. Americans are also saps enough to buy anything which is anti-communist.
But it is the Communists who want these "restrictions" of the First Amendment. Of all posters certainly you know this.
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Old 12-10-2010, 10:41 AM
 
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Americans are also saps enough to buy anything which is anti-communist.
As they should! We are NOT a Communist nation although many like yourself wish we were.
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Old 12-10-2010, 10:53 AM
 
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But it is the Communists who want these "restrictions" of the First Amendment. Of all posters certainly you know this.
But all the important things that Americans really care about would not be impacted: Football and basketball schedules will continue (the Super Bowl will not be canceled!), TV will still show ads of great deals and wonderful, quick foods. American Idol and Dancing With The Stars will go on as planned, pro-wrestling will continue, supermarket magazine racks will still sell the latest info about celebrities, TV evangelists will still rake in plenty of money, the military will be bombing somebody somewhere, people will still spend countless hours playing video games...
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Old 12-10-2010, 10:54 AM
 
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But all the important things that Americans really care about would not be impacted: Football and basketball schedules will continue (the Super Bowl will not be canceled!), TV will still show ads of great deals and wonderful, quick foods. American Idol and Dancing With The Stars will go on as planned, pro-wrestling will continue, supermarket magazine racks will still sell the latest info about celebrities, TV evangelists will still rake in plenty of money, the military will be bombing somebody somewhere, people will still spend countless hours playing video games...
Yeah ok Comrade, whatever you say.
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Old 12-10-2010, 11:19 AM
 
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As they should! We are NOT a Communist nation although many like yourself wish we were.
Hopefully, in the interests of national security and your personal safety, you check under your bed every night before going to sleep. And it might be a good idea to report your daily findings to your local law enforcement agency. Gotta git dose commies, yuk, yuk!
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Old 12-10-2010, 12:22 PM
 
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Wikileaks have released some documents that shed light on the veiled secrecy of international diplomacy.

But really nothing earth-shattering.

Just wondering if Assange is set up as a "pansy" for the New World Order?

To apply harsher Patriot Act......

Btw, hows the government liking it being used on them?

How would George Orwell paint it?
If it was a setup to justify more control, it did the opposite of what it was suspposed to. So many people praise Asange as a hero, even though he's really a self-absorbed womanizing puke. It only increased the strength of the opposition while demolishing any remaining shred of credibility the ruling parties had left.

I think wikileaks is the circus stunt of one megalomaniac who got picked on too much as a kid, not a shadowy conspiracy meant to change the world for the worse.
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