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I like to read any article about "CLIMATE CHANGE" or as the crawfishing media used to say "GLOBAL WARMING". If anyone believes that the earth is doomed because I drive an SUV or people will distroy the planet needs to buy stock in my solar powered hand warmer.
I'm sure you weren't posting anything about the record heat waves sweeping across the country this past summer.
That's because it's already been said to be caused by El Niño and not due to human activity . There's record cold and snow in northern Europe again by the way. Britain's been at or below freezing for a few weeks now, when their average temps is around 45-50 degrees in winter
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Originally Posted by alphamale
Humans thrive in hot temperatures. Food production goes wild.
The mini ice ages have caused death and war.
Try growing food in cold climates without Co2.
I think the well-meaning, very tolerant, open-minded, scientifically oriented liberals always seem to forget that the human species last evolved near the EQUATOR. We are an EQUATORIAL species and we NEED a warm world to survive. We didn't evolve thick fur coats like the animals that have been living in the temperate and polar regions did hundreds of thousands of years ago. Why is it that the majority humans feel happier the closer they are to the equator whether they are on vacation or live there? We were made to live between the Tropic of Cancer and Capricorn and whenever human civilization has flourished, it was due to a warmer world
Humans thrive in hot temperatures. Food production goes wild.
The mini ice ages have caused death and war.
Try growing food in cold climates without Co2.
You know alphamale.....I have put some thought over the past few years to thinking along your lines.
In order to feed our ever growing population....we'll need to grow more food. If global warming is in fact happening and the climate is warming, there will be good things, and some bad things happening too obviously.
More CO2 as you mention is exactly what all plants (foodstuff that we can eat) need to survive....and the more of it that's in the asmosphere the faster they grow...not to mention if it's warmer they will grow even faster yet.
Yes, we'll lose some land at current sea level to several feet above with the warming climate which certainly won't be good for those that live in those areas....that obviously is not a good thing.
You're right that humans and plants thrive in warmer tempatures. Even nature basically shuts down in colder temps. Animals hibernate, most plants/trees etc... either die or go into some sort of "inactive" status during prolonged cold periods such as winter in the northern lattitudes.
Diseases do prosper at warmer temps unfortunately....so that would be downside if things get warmer.
But that all being said, as I mentioned at the beginning, I've thought many times that wouldn't it be a surprise if our warming climate is actually what saved us from future famine and possibly many other problems on the horizon that we're not even aware of yet.
On the subject of energy consumption....it would be interesting to find out what a very small average increase in the world temps would mean for energy consumption. Would it go up a bit....or down a bit. My very uneducated guess is that it may decrease a bit. Everything mechanical that consumes energy is less effecient when running in a cold environment and certainly during it's warm up phase when first turned on...and the colder it is the worse the effeciency is..........so anyway, fodder for thought if nothing else.
Warmer temperatures won't help much in terms of growing. When it is warmer, more water dissipates, water that plants need the way we need oxygen. It is all connected and very complex. Ask the Indians, they are already struggling with water shortages in agriculture, they do not welcome warmer temperatures at all.
Not to mention that we have already changed the surface of the planet quite a bit over the past couple of millennia and we continue to do so, for instance by deforestation. Europe used to be covered with forests a long time ago, most of it is gone now. Same thing in Australia, the aborigines burned down much of the fauna thousands of years ago. All around the world we keep sealing soil at an incredible pace.
There is a cooling every year. It is called "winter". It appears that 2010 could turn out to be the hottest on record.
That's according to GISS models which seem to measure global temperatures warmer than the satellite models, so I would be very sceptical about the claim of 2010 being the hottest year on record. The other models all generally agree while GISS is way out there. From what I've read, most satellite models suggest that 2010 will certainly be a mild year, but not as exaggerated as some in the media or AGW camp are suggesting.
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. There's record cold and snow in northern Europe again by the way. Britain's been at or below freezing for a few weeks now, when their average temps is around 45-50 degrees in winter
