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Old 12-12-2010, 09:27 PM
 
Location: Indiana
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Or would you forgive? Or would you not forgive but still want to spare their life and make them go to jail instead?

I've always been a total believer in forgiveness, I hate violence of all kinds, whether it's "justified" or not. Though I haven't had anyone close to me murdered, thank God, so I can't say for sure if I would forgive them. I hope I would though.
If the death penalty was part of the law at the time,yes I would insist that the government fallow the law.
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Old 12-12-2010, 09:59 PM
 
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If it was murder where their crime was planned and thought out then I would say death penalty. To me it would be a terrible injustice to the murdered victim to allow their murderer to live. A life sentence in prison doesn't justify taking a life.
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Old 12-13-2010, 02:55 AM
 
Location: The Midst of Insanity
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It costs far more to execute someone than to keep them in prison for life, and our Constitution guarantees the rights of people accused of crimes (innocent until proven guilty). Also, the states WITHOUT the death penalty have much lower murder rates than those with capital punishment. Some studies have shown executions actually increase violent crime.
It costs more because of the lengthy appellate process. There is no reason that an inmate should sit on Death Row for 12 years or so, filing appeal after appeal after appeal after the sentence has been struck. There should be a limit on appeals.
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Old 12-13-2010, 03:25 AM
 
Location: The Midst of Insanity
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I'm really sorry. *hugs*

Still, you have to understand the people who did that to your friends are broken. They probably weren't treated with love and care growing up, or if they were, have some kind of mental defect. It's not normal to kill people, I don't believe it's just something people choose to do one day. Wanting them to suffer would accomplish nothing, it's not going to bring your friends back unfortunately, I wish it could though. Of course they should be kept apart from open society though.
NO EXCUSE. And there are plenty of "broken" people (whatever that means) who do not hurt/rape/murder/or otherwise terrorize innocent people because of their backgrounds and upbringing.
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Old 12-13-2010, 03:28 AM
 
Location: Harrisonburg, VA
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Two wrongs don't make a right. The family member is dead. Killing someone won't bring them back. I am sure that other person has a family too somewhere. Would you really want to make them suffer for his/her wrongdoing?
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Old 12-13-2010, 04:03 AM
 
Location: The Midst of Insanity
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Two wrongs don't make a right. The family member is dead. Killing someone won't bring them back. I am sure that other person has a family too somewhere. Would you really want to make them suffer for his/her wrongdoing?
How are you "sure" they have a family somewhere and if so, that the family cares? Not everyone has a family and not all families care about one another. And what does it matter? Do you feel that a murderer/rapist etc. should be forgiven or relieved of their crimes in order to not cause pain to their loved ones?

For those of you who feel this way-have you ever lost a loved one to violence? Have you ever been on the receiving end of a violent attack?
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Old 12-13-2010, 04:17 AM
 
Location: Fort Worth Texas
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Or would you forgive? Or would you not forgive but still want to spare their life and make them go to jail instead?

I've always been a total believer in forgiveness, I hate violence of all kinds, whether it's "justified" or not. Though I haven't had anyone close to me murdered, thank God, so I can't say for sure if I would forgive them. I hope I would though.
It would be selfish of me to want the death penalty for my sake. too many people have been exonerated while on death row. The problem is once you use the death penalty you can not undo it if later new evidence exonerates the convict. State sponsored murder can nor be right at the start or at the end of life
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Old 12-13-2010, 04:45 AM
 
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Or would you forgive? Or would you not forgive but still want to spare their life and make them go to jail instead?

I've always been a total believer in forgiveness, I hate violence of all kinds, whether it's "justified" or not. Though I haven't had anyone close to me murdered, thank God, so I can't say for sure if I would forgive them. I hope I would though.
Forgiveness is ideal but there are some lines a human being crosses that you can never come back from. Heinous beyond the pale. Charles Manson, John Wayne Gayce, Richard Ramirez, Richard Speck.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i725FCBJIxA

I believe in these extremes the death penalty, or even death by cop, would actually be merciful because they're already dead. I already know many will disagree so I'll just let it go.
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Old 12-13-2010, 05:07 AM
 
Location: Texas
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Or would you forgive? Or would you not forgive but still want to spare their life and make them go to jail instead?

I've always been a total believer in forgiveness, I hate violence of all kinds, whether it's "justified" or not. Though I haven't had anyone close to me murdered, thank God, so I can't say for sure if I would forgive them. I hope I would though.
ABSOLUTELY.

If someone murdered my dog (we're talking about ON PURPOSE murder), I would demand the death penalty...or get homicidal myself.
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Old 12-13-2010, 05:08 AM
 
Location: Texas
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Two wrongs don't make a right. The family member is dead. Killing someone won't bring them back. I am sure that other person has a family too somewhere. Would you really want to make them suffer for his/her wrongdoing?
Please tell me what the point of letting them live is? Especially if now, to add insult to injury, *I* have to pay for their internment.
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