Birther Lakin Wakes Up and Smells the Coffee. (suspect, Army, prison)

[InformedConsent]

Originally Posted by Dane_in_LA

Everybody, except the Birfers, knows that "citizen" covers those who are citizens by birth or naturalization, and "natural born citizen" covers those who are citizens by birth.

Incorrect. There are at least two SCOTUS decisions that state otherwise.

[InformedConsent]

Originally Posted by Dane_in_LA

Vattel wasn't dug out of history's attic until the "Fake Birth Certificate" storyline got just a little too embarrassing.

It only seems that way to you because you've been oblivious.

It is chuckle-worthy that you're giving every nation in the world the right to disqualify a Presidential candidate, though.

I'm not 'giving' it to them. In this case, Obama, the DNC, Organizing for America, and FactCheck all ADMIT the UK's claim on Obama's allegiance at birth. Understandable, because you CANNOT NEGATE a biological father's rights. Obama was born a Brit. He's not legit.

http://i993.photobucket.com/albums/af60/ICimg/BornBrit.jpg (broken link)

[Dane_in_LA]

Originally Posted by InformedConsent

Hmmm... and yet Watada, who failed to deploy because 'he thought' the war was illegal, walked.
A Mistrial for Lieut. Watada - TIME

Watada was guilty as all out and only avoided Leavenworth thanks to the military bungling his trial to an astonishing degree. In Lakin's case, the court actually worked.

[InformedConsent]

Originally Posted by HistorianDude

You do not appear to understand what "contradicted" means.

I most certainly do. I'll cite the SCOTUS decision for you AGAIN, because you seem to not be getting it (partisan blinders in the way and all that ):

At common law, with the nomenclature of which the framers of the Constitution were familiar, it was never doubted that all children, born in a country of parents who were its citizens, became themselves, upon their birth, citizens also. These were natives, or natural-born citizens, as distinguished from aliens or foreigners. Some authorities go further, and include as citizens children born within the jurisdiction, without reference to the citizenship of their parents. As to this class, there have been doubts, but never as to the first. For the purposes of this case, it is not necessary to solve these doubts. It is sufficient for everything we have now to consider that all children born of citizen parents within the jurisdiction are themselves citizens.

(The Conclusion)...The evident intention, and the necessary effect, of the submission of this case to the decision of the court upon the facts agreed by the parties were to present for determination the single question stated at the beginning of this opinion, namely, whether a child born in the United States, of parent of Chinese descent, who, at the time of his birth, are subjects of the Emperor of China, but have a permanent domicil and residence in the United States, and are there carrying on business, and are not employed in any diplomatic or official capacity under the Emperor of China, becomes at the time of his birth a citizen of the United States. For the reasons above stated, this court is of opinion that the question must be answered in the affirmative.

Citizen, not natural born citizen.

[Dane_in_LA]

Originally Posted by InformedConsent

Incorrect. There are at least two SCOTUS decisions that state otherwise.

Sure.

[ergohead]

Originally Posted by hooligan

He's not a non-president, however. He is, right now, the President of the United States. He will remain the president until proven to be unable to occupy the office. Correct?

Immigrants can be naturalized, but the Constitution can't be, by its own being.

The Globalists would LIKE to naturalize the U.S., but, sovereignty is a stubborn thing.

Was Popeye ever Blutoized?

Was Olive Oyl Greek?

Well, I don't think so.

Popeye never relinquished his sovereignty, even after he hooked up with that . . that . . goyl!

"In the strip as written by Segar, Olive was something of a coy flapper whose extremely thin build lent itself well to the fashions of the time; her long black hair was usually rolled in a neat bun, like her mother's. She was the more-or-less fiancée of Harold Hamgravy, a "lounge lizard" or slacker type who did as little work as possible and was always borrowing money. His attraction to other women—particularly if they were rich—naturally incensed Olive, and she once succumbed to a fit of "lunaphobia" (a kind of angry madness) over one of his amours. (When she recovered, she continued to pretend to have the disorder to win him back.) She was not immune to flattery from other men, but remained committed to Ham until Popeye's appearance. The two did not fall in love at once (her first words to him were "Aw, shut up, you bilge rat!"), but instead fought bitterly (and hilariously) for weeks, before realizing they cared for each other."

Olive Oyl - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

How many times did Popeye have to explain, "I yam what I yam"?

"I'm Popeye the Sailorman!"

[InformedConsent]

Originally Posted by Dane_in_LA

Watada was guilty as all out and only avoided Leavenworth thanks to the military bungling his trial to an astonishing degree. In Lakin's case, the court actually worked.

They didn't retry the mistrial. Unequal military justice. I hope the troops are taking note.

[ergohead]

Originally Posted by Dane_in_LA

Watada was guilty as all out and only avoided Leavenworth thanks to the military bungling his trial to an astonishing degree. In Lakin's case, the court actually worked.

Well, we wouldn't want a mutiny, now, would we?

[InformedConsent]

Originally Posted by ergohead

Well, we wouldn't want a mutiny, now, would we?

Depends on how the troops perceive unequal military justice, doesn't it?

[meson]

I ♥ birfers, they are a riot!