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View Poll Results: Should people be required to submit to a drug screen before receiving unemployment benefits or welfa
Yes 118 65.19%
No 63 34.81%
Voters: 181. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 12-17-2010, 09:24 PM
 
Location: very new to Ossining NY
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Should people be required to take drug tests to receive welfare and unemployment benefits?


*Sorry for the typo in the poll question... the last word is welfare. =)
I get Section 8 rental subsidy and Medicaid to help pay for prescription drugs.

I have no problem with being tested, at any time. However, I do have a problem with small minded people who think I can be lumped into an "underclass", and thus, I must be a drug abuser and/or alcoholic because I use these services. If it became a law, no sweat, but I won't be volunteering to take any drug test, or any other type of test, just to appease ridiculous people.

However, I will volunteer when those same tests are randomly, unannounced, given to judges, prosecutors and police officers. I believe in one standard of "law" for everyone, not just American society's pariahs. I know there would be surprises.
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Old 12-18-2010, 06:28 PM
 
Location: Montana
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What drugs? Drug use and government benefits really don't have anything to do with each other anyway. There are plenty of people who don't use drugs who get benefits who are more damaging to society than, say, someone who occasionally smokes pot.

If you have a some problem with government benefits then you should try to fix that rather than go down the road of picking and choosing who gets them based on a set of critera that would surely continue to grow. Set a firm limit to benefits, and stick to it. That's the only way to go.
I agree with ya..

I started this poll to see what people thought, please don't assume that I think one way or another on the question, there are parts of me that think yes, and other parts that think no.... It actually came up in another thread and another thought gave me the idea to start the poll.

I know someone who abuses the system, and it drives me nuts to hear them brag about it... I know that's only one person and not everyone.

Just wanted to see what other people thought...
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Old 12-18-2010, 06:30 PM
 
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I get Section 8 rental subsidy and Medicaid to help pay for prescription drugs.

I have no problem with being tested, at any time. However, I do have a problem with small minded people who think I can be lumped into an "underclass", and thus, I must be a drug abuser and/or alcoholic because I use these services. If it became a law, no sweat, but I won't be volunteering to take any drug test, or any other type of test, just to appease ridiculous people.

However, I will volunteer when those same tests are randomly, unannounced, given to judges, prosecutors and police officers. I believe in one standard of "law" for everyone, not just American society's pariahs. I know there would be surprises.
Why do you get section 8 and Medicaid?
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Old 12-19-2010, 07:55 AM
 
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Really..and some ones comes in with a bach degree who was recently laid off..knowing that when the job they are looking for they will quit the position with you and go to that job..they only applied with you cuz only at the time they needed a job..The job they want pays more than you do?
Will you still hire them..knowing at anytime they will quit for something better...hmmmm Im wondering....some people are over qualified to work in restaurants...When I was unemployed Walmart and other companies , wouldnt hire me..said I was over qualified,,So are you going to pay someone with a degree more money just to work in your restaurant??
I guess it depends on where you are. I always thought the food service industry had high turn over and it's to be expected. Very few make life long careers in the service industry despite background. So, I don't think level of education matters. Further, in fine dining having an education is not an issue at all and pretty typical.
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I get Section 8 rental subsidy and Medicaid to help pay for prescription drugs.

I have no problem with being tested, at any time. However, I do have a problem with small minded people who think I can be lumped into an "underclass", and thus, I must be a drug abuser and/or alcoholic because I use these services. If it became a law, no sweat, but I won't be volunteering to take any drug test, or any other type of test, just to appease ridiculous people.
You could just not take the money from these ridiculous people.

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However, I will volunteer when those same tests are randomly, unannounced, given to judges, prosecutors and police officers. I believe in one standard of "law" for everyone, not just American society's pariahs. I know there would be surprises.
You collecting welfare is not the same thing as doing a job like a cop, lawyer, etc. I think testing is a good idea either way. If folk are on welfare and have a drug problem than perhaps these folk could at least enter into programs to deal with the addiction. I had to take a drug test when I got my job. I didn't feel insulted by it.
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Old 12-19-2010, 09:15 AM
 
Location: Southeastern Tennessee
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Should people be required to take drug tests to receive welfare and unemployment benefits?


*Sorry for the typo in the poll question... the last word is welfare. =)
Absolutely.

Welfare & unemployment benefits is not meant to be a long term solution. It's meant to be used until you get back on your feet and if you're using your welfare or unemployment check to get high that's working against the intended goal of finding work.
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Old 12-19-2010, 03:53 PM
 
Location: Boise
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Yes, they can live their lives in the ways that suit them...and without welfare.
Why should these people be disenfranchised for drug use? Which drugs? Almost every single illicit drug used would be just as costly and damaging as just about everything else out there that we are encouraged to over-consume. Are we going to test these people for alcohol, tobacco, cholesterol etc...?
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Old 12-19-2010, 03:57 PM
 
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Why should these people be disenfranchised for drug use? Which drugs? Almost every single illicit drug used would be just as costly and damaging as just about everything else out there that we are encouraged to over-consume. Are we going to test these people for alcohol, tobacco, cholesterol etc...?
Yes, we are. Just as soon as we get rid of that pesky little 4th amendment.
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Old 12-19-2010, 04:09 PM
 
Location: Boise
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Control? Why do you deal in absolutes?
No I have a need to make sure our tax dollars are better spent tomorow than they have been so far. I am always willing to help those who need help. That only goes so far. We have no need to help someone fund a drug habit. That would be counter productive. Whats next? Make drugs free and part of our welfare system? What privacy? They have surrendered what little privacy they enjoyed by filling out the applications.
I'd much rather have my tax dollars spent on a bag of weed than a bomb, a few mushrooms instead of tank - heck, I'd rather someone use it to buy crack than to pay some seedy politicians salary so that (s)he can enact some law to fleece me later.

When it comes to how much aid money is spent on drugs I'm willing to bet it's next to nothing compared to what we spend on golden parachutes, corrupt government employees, forty-thousand-dollar toilet seats and various other "official" forms of leeching.
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Old 12-19-2010, 06:33 PM
 
Location: Boise
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Yes, we are. Just as soon as we get rid of that pesky little 4th amendment.
That d--m fourth amendment
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Old 12-19-2010, 07:36 PM
 
Location: California
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Maybe people should be tested before being allowed to claim the child tax credit or mortgage interest deductions. I don't want no druggies using that kid/house money to fuel their addictions! Banks should require it for all loan apps too! You can't trust drug users to pay anything back.
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