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View Poll Results: Should people be required to submit to a drug screen before receiving unemployment benefits or welfa
Yes 118 65.19%
No 63 34.81%
Voters: 181. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 09-06-2011, 02:00 AM
 
Location: Bay Area, CA
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Dang, it's hard to quote when you answer like that!

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Yeah, very reputable advertising in porn magazines looking for the pot users
You didn't say reputable, you said real - big difference there, and I'm not just arguing semantics. I won't debate the medical marijuana business is a joke, which is why I always put "medication" and "legal" in quotes... and also why it's ridiculous we haven't fully legalized yet, but that's a whole other debate.

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It should only be acceptable by a doctor by prescription and the doctor should be held responsible for just enabling addicts.
That should - and does - apply to any legally prescribed medications, and yet we only test for ONE of them... this is where I have a problem with the whole concept.

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Testing is good when people want access to the state or federal treasury.
As long as you don't want those funds, keep taking the drugs.
Nobody wants to be laid off, and most people these days barely see it coming. So while your concept is logical to some degree, in reality it would cause quite a mess (an expensive one at that) IMO.
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Old 09-06-2011, 02:02 AM
 
Location: Bay Area, CA
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Rehab at best gets 3% results, so it goes back to Nancy Reagan and JUST SAY NO.
Hey, you're the one who suggested it! As for "just say no," it's often too little too late by the time we get to this scenario... nice thought, but not gonna happen for most. Have you ever tried alcohol or drugs of any kind?
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Old 09-06-2011, 02:44 AM
 
Location: California
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Cool as long as you don't want unemployment or welfare.
Recreational drug users are getting welfare, although at least one state is expiermenting with testing.

Everyone gets unemployment if they qualify. Drug testing will never be an issue.

So, uhh, COOL!
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Old 09-06-2011, 08:33 AM
 
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"Pot is really too common to be tested for most jobs. CSR, office work...who give a damn?"



If I smoke pot, I can't work.
One of the big parts of the drug testing in my field.
Part of the deal is that companies that drug test get a discount on their Workman's Comp via the government.

If my money pays for benefits those receiving them ought to fall under at least the same guidelines especially considering they should be on the way to getting back on their feet, those that are physically able.
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Old 09-06-2011, 12:02 PM
 
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Default Should people be required to take drug tests to receive welfare and unemployment benefits?

Yes!

If a person can't handle him/self on drugs, how could that person be expected to handle a government job, or child rearing?
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Old 09-06-2011, 02:32 PM
 
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Yes!

If a person can't handle him/self on drugs, how could that person be expected to handle a government job, or child rearing?
So anyone who has ever done something stupid when they were drunk shouldn't be able to have a job with the government or have kids? Really?
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Old 09-06-2011, 02:44 PM
 
Location: Beautiful Niagara Falls ON.
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I would be in favour if at the same time it became a requirement of all elected officials to be tested every time before they were paid.
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Old 09-06-2011, 02:50 PM
 
Location: Pa
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I would be in favour if at the same time it became a requirement of all elected officials to be tested every time before they were paid.
I would include all civil service employees including teachers.
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Old 09-06-2011, 11:24 PM
 
Location: Bay Area, CA
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"Pot is really too common to be tested for most jobs. CSR, office work...who give a damn?"



If I smoke pot, I can't work.
Do you mean "if I go to work high I can't work," or does it affect you even the following day? If it's the former, I don't think anyone would argue with that - NEVER a good idea to smoke before work, but I think Ceece & I are saying it doesn't matter if you do it on your free time. Drug tests can't say if you're currently under the influence, so IMO people shouldn't be penalized for doing it OFF the job. Make sense?

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One of the big parts of the drug testing in my field.
Part of the deal is that companies that drug test get a discount on their Workman's Comp via the government.

If my money pays for benefits those receiving them ought to fall under at least the same guidelines especially considering they should be on the way to getting back on their feet, those that are physically able.
If I'm not mistaken, most companies/institutions have a specific policy regarding worker's comp - if you get hurt on the job, you typically have to pass a drug test (after the fact) to receive your WC benefits. I have a friend who badly cut herself while working as a chef, and they made her take a drug test the following week... she drank a LOT of water that week, LOL.
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Old 09-06-2011, 11:28 PM
 
Location: Bay Area, CA
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So anyone who has ever done something stupid when they were drunk shouldn't be able to have a job with the government or have kids? Really?
LOL... of course, that would leave like 90% of Americans out of work & childless. And didn't you know, alcohol is fine because it's legal? Yup, no problems whatsoever with that harmless little indulgence - but drugs are bad, mkay?
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