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View Poll Results: Should people be required to submit to a drug screen before receiving unemployment benefits or welfa
Yes 118 65.19%
No 63 34.81%
Voters: 181. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 09-14-2012, 05:54 AM
 
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All that does is limit options for people in need.
If you have money for drugs? The way I look at is you're enabling them. I know the common argument is you're hurting the children of these people but frankly if you're testing positive for drugs and you're on welfare they have no concern for their kids whether it's brought on by addiction or not. The kids see very little or none of that money.



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Drug issues are medical
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Yes I would agree. The "War on Drugs" is lost cause and they should be fully legalized, shift that money to treatment however I'd still fully support testing welfare recipients legal or not.
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Old 09-14-2012, 05:56 AM
 
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If Public Employees are not drug tested because it "infringes upon their civil liberties" than nobody needs to be drug tested, except those that play for a professional sports team where steroids are banned.
Public employees should be tested.
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Old 09-14-2012, 06:00 AM
 
Location: Earth
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Dup thread.
Should people be required to take drug tests to receive welfare and unemployment benefits?

http://www.tampabay.com/news/courts/...-shows/1225721
TALLAHASSEE — Required drug tests for people seeking welfare benefits ended up costing taxpayers more than it saved and failed to curb the number of prospective applicants, data used against the state in an ongoing legal battle shows.

Only 108 of the 4,086 people who took a drug test failed.

So much for the less government people.

Last edited by chielgirl; 09-14-2012 at 06:26 AM..
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Old 09-14-2012, 11:37 AM
 
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Should people be required to take drug tests to receive welfare and unemployment benefits?


*Sorry for the typo in the poll question... the last word is welfare. =)

Sure, as long as everybody getting government wages or (non-universal) tax breaks is subject to drug testing. Why should some groups be targeted?

I've never had any tax breaks beyond the universal standard deduction and personal exemption, so I figure my tax dollars are redistributed to people with tax breaks.
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Old 09-14-2012, 11:40 AM
 
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YES

Many jobs require it, the money saved from abuse would
cover the cost of the fraud that the current system has now.

If this were to pass people just might have to become accountable

None of the jobs I have ever held or applied for required drug testing. And probably most of the jobs available to welfare recipients (low-end jobs) probably don't require drug testing either.
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Old 09-14-2012, 11:47 AM
 
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The dollar store carries testing kits for marijuana.
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Old 09-14-2012, 11:49 AM
 
Location: Arizona
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I thought the "Tightie Righties" were against more government meddling in our lives? Must have missed something.
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Old 09-14-2012, 11:51 AM
 
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Absolutely not. Disregardin the many, many constitutional issues, have any of the proponents of this examined the cost/benefit ratio?
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Old 09-14-2012, 01:14 PM
 
Location: California
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I don't understand how people so easily think it's perfectly ok for anyone to drug test them. Can you be any more invasive? Unless there is a SOLID reason to make sure someone isn't at risk for passing out or putting others in immediate danger it doesn't matter one iota who's done what. I agree that pot is the thing that will show up the most and it's also the thing that matters the least and there is no reason to test for it. It's a phoney problem that we've created to scare people and control them and chips away at our rights. Just say no to drug testing.
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Old 09-14-2012, 01:31 PM
 
Location: SF Bay Area
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I don't understand how people so easily think it's perfectly ok for anyone to drug test them. Can you be any more invasive? Unless there is a SOLID reason to make sure someone isn't at risk for passing out or putting others in immediate danger it doesn't matter one iota who's done what. I agree that pot is the thing that will show up the most and it's also the thing that matters the least and there is no reason to test for it. It's a phoney problem that we've created to scare people and control them and chips away at our rights. Just say no to drug testing.
I don't agree with very many of your posts, but this one is spot on....thank you!

Drug-testing is a multi-billion dollar industry scam "solution" in search of a problem that was never there. And for 25 years I've said shame on the blind sheep that have gone along with it - the most unconstitutional in concept invasion of privacy and insult to our 4th amendment rights in our nation's history.

25 years ago as I watched in disbelief as our once great nation surrendered to this grotesquely ugly concept, I knew that our days were numbered as a free people. To open that door was to open a floodgate of tyranny that would push our freedoms into the remotest corners of our lives....and we have been watching it come to pass ever since.
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