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View Poll Results: Should people be required to submit to a drug screen before receiving unemployment benefits or welfa
Yes 118 65.19%
No 63 34.81%
Voters: 181. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 09-15-2012, 10:14 AM
 
Location: Florida
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It ended up costing us more, and therefore failed. It will most likely be repealed. Also, people don't like to be treated like criminals who have to prove they are innocent of crimes, when they have committed none.

Sorry, I was wrong. It it not that it will "likely be repealed". The program is already banned, because it is likely unconstitutional. Michigan already ruled the same policy unconstitutional.

Good. That policy was a real money-hog. I hope other states learned from our mistakes.

Florida tax payers had to pay an additional $600 000 to those people who refused to take the test. And we already paid $35 a pop to test the people in the first place. The entire state of Florida (pop 19 million) found only 108 positive results, almost all of which were for pot.
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Old 09-15-2012, 10:20 AM
 
Location: US, California - federalist
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In my opinion, denying and disparaging individual liberty and our privileges and immunities should be considered a conflict of interest under any form of Capitalism where the wealthy and our wealthier elected representatives can make more money with their already existing wealth simply by investing in those institutions which support those policies.

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Old 09-15-2012, 12:15 PM
 
Location: California
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I have to say that it's more likely people with actual money (not welfare recipeients or food stamp users) who are more likely to be drug addictis. I'm not takling about pot smokers...I'm talking about big gun drugs that cost $$. There are only so many "food stamp lobsters" you can sell to support a serious habit. When do you go after them? I'm sure they are costing you some tax $ at some point. They just don't have a predrawn bullseye on their backs do they? Most likely becasue they are your family, friends and neighbors. You know, the GOOD people, not the POOR scum.
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Old 09-15-2012, 12:36 PM
 
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Sorry, I was wrong. It it not that it will "likely be repealed". The program is already banned, because it is likely unconstitutional. Michigan already ruled the same policy unconstitutional.

Good. That policy was a real money-hog. I hope other states learned from our mistakes.

Florida tax payers had to pay an additional $600 000 to those people who refused to take the test. And we already paid $35 a pop to test the people in the first place. The entire state of Florida (pop 19 million) found only 108 positive results, almost all of which were for pot.
Good to hear.
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Old 09-15-2012, 06:15 PM
 
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I have to say that it's more likely people with actual money (not welfare recipeients or food stamp users) who are more likely to be drug addictis.
I would imagine it's an equal percentage across the board to some degree however when you start getting into hardcore addicts the drug itself causes poverty. If you're middle class and start using heroin it's very likely you won't be middle class for long. Functioning addicts are out there but they are the exception and not the rule.
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Old 09-15-2012, 06:37 PM
 
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how do you track something after it's been purchased?

rfid :d
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Old 05-23-2013, 07:58 AM
 
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Yes. It amazes me that it's even a question.
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Old 05-23-2013, 08:04 AM
 
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Sorry, I was wrong. It it not that it will "likely be repealed". The program is already banned, because it is likely unconstitutional. Michigan already ruled the same policy unconstitutional.

Good. That policy was a real money-hog. I hope other states learned from our mistakes.

Florida tax payers had to pay an additional $600 000 to those people who refused to take the test. And we already paid $35 a pop to test the people in the first place. The entire state of Florida (pop 19 million) found only 108 positive results, almost all of which were for pot.
I find this is just crazy. Unconstitutional my A_$$ !! So why isn't unconstituional for us worker bee's that have to be drug tested ? I'm sorry but free money needs to come with a stipulation. Random drug tests for welfare and unemployment recipients period.
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Old 05-25-2013, 08:02 PM
 
Location: Texas State Fair
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Should people be required to take drug tests to receive welfare and unemployment benefits?


*Sorry for the typo in the poll question... the last word is welfare. =)
Looks like someone was listening...

Drug tests for unemployment benefits approved | khou.com Houston
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Posted on May 25, 2013 at 4:12 PM

AUSTIN, Texas (AP) -- Workers who lose their jobs would have to clear a drug screening to qualify for unemployment compensation under a proposal approved by the Texas Legislature.
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Old 05-25-2013, 08:06 PM
 
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Looks like someone was listening...
This shouldn't apply to unemployment benefits, it's completely different than welfare benefits.
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