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Old 12-14-2010, 11:30 AM
 
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I ask this because a group of blacks in my office were talking about this and they all seemed to agree that they didnt know anyone that celebrated this holiday NOT to stir up any racial BS. They seemed to infer that this was some sort of made up or faux holiday. I personally have never meet anyone that celebrates it but hey I'm white. Yet I do see more and more Happy Kwanzaa mentioned during the holiday season. Why is this?

The histoy of Kwanzaa is listed below. Take a look at the background of the black nationalist who invented it. He seems to be quite the nefarious character to me. Convicted of touturing women???

"In 1971, Karenga "was sentenced to one to ten years in prison on counts of felonious assault and false imprisonment". One of the victims gave testimony of how Karenga tortured her and another woman whom he had accused of attempting to assassinate him."

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Old 12-14-2010, 11:52 AM
 
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I ask this because a group of blacks in my office were talking about this and they all seemed to agree that they didnt know anyone that celebrated this holiday NOT to stir up any racial BS. They seemed to infer that this was some sort of made up or faux holiday. I personally have never meet anyone that celebrates it but hey I'm white. Yet I do see more and more Happy Kwanzaa mentioned during the holiday season. Why is this?

The histoy of Kwanzaa is listed below. Take a look at the background of the black nationalist who invented it. He seems to be quite the nefarious character to me. Convicted of touturing women???

"In 1971, Karenga "was sentenced to one to ten years in prison on counts of felonious assault and false imprisonment". One of the victims gave testimony of how Karenga tortured her and another woman whom he had accused of attempting to assassinate him."

Kwanzaa - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Maulana Karenga - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

All holidays are made up, some are just older than others.

As for Karenga, so what. Looks like you are attempting to taint the holiday with ad hominems against its inventor.

I'm not sure that's at all relevant to whether Kwanzaa is popular enough to be a "real" holiday.
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Old 12-14-2010, 11:58 AM
 
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A lot of people used to celebrate Kazaa, but Kwanzaa Seems like a desperate act of Afrocentrism...
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Old 12-14-2010, 12:01 PM
 
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Hahah after reading your post I am definitely going to come up to random black people and say "Happy Kwanzaa!!". I can't believe people actually do that. ****ing priceless!!!
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Old 12-14-2010, 12:04 PM
 
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Yes, I guess if I were black and white strangers said Happy Kwanzaa to me, I might even feel like being made fun of.
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Old 12-14-2010, 12:06 PM
 
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Especially if you said "Happy Kwanzaa."

The preferred holiday greeting in this case is "Joyous Kwanzaa."

What interests me is why in the world do any of your care what other people do over the holidays.
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Old 12-14-2010, 12:07 PM
 
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All holidays are made up, some are just older than others.

As for Karenga, so what. Looks like you are attempting to taint the holiday with ad hominems against its inventor.

I'm not sure that's at all relevant to whether Kwanzaa is popular enough to be a "real" holiday.
That may well be, but I don't know that celebrating ethnic identity is equivalent to the incarnation of Christ.
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Old 12-14-2010, 12:09 PM
 
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And then there is Festivus for the rest of us. :^D
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Old 12-14-2010, 12:17 PM
 
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That may well be, but I don't know that celebrating ethnic identity is equivalent to the incarnation of Christ.
To you perhaps.

What is the problem with letting people celebrate whatever they want?
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Old 12-14-2010, 12:17 PM
 
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Black folks didn't celebrate Christmas either before we arrived on these shores. So what? Black folks can only celebrate the holidays that white people sanction?

What we do and don't celebrate is our business. The origin and meaning of Kwanzaa is a matter for those who want to celebrate it...nefarious or not. You don't like it, then don't celebrate it. I really don't see what's so hard about that.

Supposedly, this thread wasn't started with "racial b.s." in mind. I beg to differ.

BTW...i know a "few" people who celebrate Kwanzaa.
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