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Old 12-14-2010, 12:38 PM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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Everyone becomes self employed.

What would that do to the way people think and the one world order, deal?
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Old 12-14-2010, 12:42 PM
 
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Can you provide some examples of how that would work?

In our seafood business, we depend heavily on our employees. If they all quit to become self employed, we'd have to scale back production to a point where there probably wouldn't be any profit at all.
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Old 12-14-2010, 12:48 PM
 
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Can you provide some examples of how that would work?

In our seafood business, we depend heavily on our employees. If they all quit to become self employed, we'd have to scale back production to a point where there probably wouldn't be any profit at all.
Independent contractors are self employed. Actually it places the burden of all benefits upon the self-employed independent contractor rather than on the back of the employer. It also places the burden for witholding taxes and paying the self-employment tax on the independent contractor.

I'm not clear on the OP's reference to "one world order" unless it is to associate unions with economic globalism, the "workers of the world unite" mantra. Please elaborate.
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Old 12-14-2010, 12:52 PM
 
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Everyone becomes self employed.

What would that do to the way people think and the one world order, deal?
If you truly think that there will be "one world order" any time in our lifetimes, you're seriously deluded. Christians can't even get along with each other, much less anyone else; Muslims can't get along with any other religion; Jews want to get rid of the Arabs; China isn't going to allow itself to be governed by anyone else, and that's not even touching the problem of countries like North Korea, Somalia, et cetera.

Yeah right. One world order, suuuuure.
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Old 12-14-2010, 12:53 PM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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Can you provide some examples of how that would work?

In our seafood business, we depend heavily on our employees. If they all quit to become self employed, we'd have to scale back production to a point where there probably wouldn't be any profit at all.

Your employees, would become self employed.
If they want to subcontract their services to you at a price and job description you negotiate individually with each individual you find to help your business. Retained or new. Then you lose no workforce, you gain a workforce competing with each other, instead of scheming, how to organize against the bad boss.(no unions)
You would not be liable for their mistakes. Nor any of the additional cost of employees.

Self employed make it on their merits, skill, dependability, responsibility, professionalism, integrity and education daily and the ability to sell themselves and back it up.
Employment makes people lazy and parts of their brains go dead.
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Old 12-14-2010, 01:04 PM
 
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Your employees, would become self employed.
If they want to subcontract their services to you at a price and job description you negotiate individually with each individual you find to help your business. Retained or new. Then you lose no workforce, you gain a workforce competing with each other, instead of scheming, how to organize against the bad boss.(no unions)
You would not be liable for their mistakes. Nor any of the additional cost of employees.

Self employed make it on their merits, skill, dependability, responsibility, professionalism, integrity and education daily and the ability to sell themselves and back it up.
Employment makes people lazy and parts of their brains go dead.
Well, it would certainly keep the bookwork down.

I already think though that our employees make it on their own merits as it is. This year...just didn't have much patience or inclination to baby anyone.
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Old 12-14-2010, 01:09 PM
 
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I tried that once, and had the IRS and the Unions at my front door almost instantaneously.
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Old 12-14-2010, 01:09 PM
 
Location: Gulf Coast Texas
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Self employed make it on their merits, skill, dependability, responsibility, professionalism, integrity and education daily and the ability to sell themselves and back it up.
Employment makes people lazy and parts of their brains go dead.
Employment makes people lazy??

People make themselves lazy. Whether or not they are employed makes little difference.
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Old 12-14-2010, 01:11 PM
 
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Works for me.
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Old 12-14-2010, 01:12 PM
 
Location: US, California - federalist
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Your employees, would become self employed.
If they want to subcontract their services to you at a price and job description you negotiate individually with each individual you find to help your business. Retained or new. Then you lose no workforce, you gain a workforce competing with each other, instead of scheming, how to organize against the bad boss.(no unions)
You would not be liable for their mistakes. Nor any of the additional cost of employees.

Self employed make it on their merits, skill, dependability, responsibility, professionalism, integrity and education daily and the ability to sell themselves and back it up.
Employment makes people lazy and parts of their brains go dead.
Why would that be better than negotiating a for-cause employment agreement?
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