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i was a witness to a minor incident, and i was asked to be a witness. a man was reading the newspaper quietly in the library not bothering anyone. a librarian and guard came over and told him he had to leave because he was drinking something. a loud arument occured for a while and the librarian went to call the cops. as they were leaving the man pushed the guard out of the way to talk to the librarian who was walking away.
the librarian did not give him a warning nor have any prior run-ins with the library and the man was not being a nusiance to anyone before the guard and librarian came over. he was not a bum just a regular guy maybe in his late 60's early 70's reading the paper minding his own busnoness. the librarian even admited that a warning should have been given before she asked me if i would be willing to be a witness. the guy had already left the library by the time i was being questioned.
the whole charge was him pushing the guard. i felt the librarian was being to harsh on the guy, so i declined to be a witness.
When I was hearing this story I envisioned my dad being the older guy...even though his is in his 80's now. There are just things he assumes and takes for granted because of how things have always been for him. I have a hard time knowing that he could inadvertently end up being singled out for "bad behavior" for basically just minding his own business and not being hip to whatever the latest this or that is. Be it new "homeland security" nonsense or the latest PC lingo. I can also see him being unable to accept that a library would even have a GUARD and might assume he was being accused of something pretty serious and feel scared.
I would also decline. No "guard" worth their salt would feel wounded by a push from a 70 year old man. Embarrassing.
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When I was hearing this story I envisioned my dad being the older guy...even though his is in his 80's now. There are just things he assumes and takes for granted because of how things have always been for him. I have a hard time knowing that he could inadvertently end up being singled out for "bad behavior" for basically just minding his own business and not being hip to whatever the latest this or that is. Be it new "homeland security" nonsense or the latest PC lingo. I can also see him being unable to accept that a library would even have a GUARD and might assume he was being accused of something pretty serious and feel scared.
I would also decline. No "guard" worth their salt would feel wounded by a push from a 70 year old man. Embarrassing.
I would like to know why they had a "guard" also? and whats he deal with the Librarian getting all Prison Warden acting? Did they charge the older fellow? I agree with you Ceece,the DHS bullcrap has got to go...maybe next election ....
the issue is not if you want to be witness but if he was drinking in the library. does not matter what a wonderful guy he was if he broke the rules he needs to leave and people do break the rules.
stop shooting the messenger.
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the issue is not if you want to be witness but if he was drinking in the library. does not matter what a wonderful guy he was if he broke the rules he needs to leave and people do break the rules.
stop shooting the messenger.
If the dude was quiet,not making a scene of any kind then I do not see the issue...lots of places who employ minimum wage flunky guards abuse it...hospitals seem to be the worst.
If the dude was quiet,not making a scene of any kind then I do not see the issue...lots of places who employ minimum wage flunky guards abuse it...hospitals seem to be the worst.
that is the problem you dont have a issue with people drinking in the library but i do.
also the bum shoving the guard around and getting aggressive and belligerent with the librarian is a non issue for you.
we are not on the same page.
Last edited by Huckleberry3911948; 09-27-2014 at 08:20 PM..
would you turn down being a witness if you felt someone was being treated unfairly?
Being that you have an opinion about what happened, I'd say you did the right thing.
[you would have been an unreliable witness]
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