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Originally Posted by SoEdible
You're holding on to this idea because you want to, because you want to complain about something every time one of these articles is written about a terrorist threat. I have tried to explain to you that the threats aren't just fluff or just articles written to "scare" people, that they are real and if you choose to react to them or not, that is your business. But, don't start going on tangents about false flags or how the government or media is trying to scare people.
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November 10, 2007: ’Suitcase Nukes’ Unlikely to Exist, Says FBI Official
November 8, 2007: FBI Warns Al-Qaeda May Strike Shopping Malls in LA and Chicago; Credibility of Threat Is Doubted
July 20, 2007: TSA Issues ‘Dry Run’ Terror Alerts Based on Bogus Information
June 2, 2007: Plot to Destroy New York Airport Considered Overhyped
May 2007 - November 26, 2007: Unfounded Warning of Terrorist and Drug Cartel Attack on Arizona Army Base
June 3, 2006: London Police Raid Seeks Chemical Device; None Found and Charges Dropped
October 6, 2005: New York Subway Terror Alert Is Reportedly Unnecessary
May 10, 2005: Ridge Reveals Internal Dissension on Terror Alerts
December 2004: Further Criticism of the Terror Alert System
August 1, 2004: Terror Alert Issued Using Old Information; Alleged to be Politically Motivated
August 2004: Criticism of the Homeland Security Terror Alert System
Richard Clarke says the Bush administration’s warning system is
“a laughingstock”
July 8, 2004: Warning Issued that Terrorists May Plot to Disrupt US Presidential Elections - Ridge will later concede that
he had no “precise knowledge” of the attack he warned against
June 14-15, 2004: Somali Immigrant Charged with Ohio Mall Bomb Plot
Court papers filed by the government
allege the existence of a plot from March 2000. His indictment isn’t announced until June 15, 2004, and it makes no mention of the shopping mall plot publicly announced the day before.
May 17-18, 2004: ******** Warns of ‘Immediate Attack’: Announcement Follows Bad News from Iraq -- During a May 16 interview on Meet the Press, Secretary of State Colin Powell is cut off by an aide while discussing misleading CIA information regarding WMD in Iraq. He admits that
“it turned out that the sourcing was inaccurate and wrong and in some cases, deliberately misleading. And for that, I am disappointed and I regret it.”
April 28, 2004: Alleged Plotters in Rome Cyanide Bomb Plot Acquitted -- A map described as showing a water main near the US embassy in fact indicated a restaurant. Also, a hole found in a utility tunnel near the embassy turned out to be too small for anyone to pass through. No links to al-Qaeda were established
March 30-April 2, 2004: Terror Alert Warns of Al-Qaeda Attack on Trains and Buses in US -- In the thousands of hours of monitored conversations, none of them mentioned anything about bombing the US (see Early 2003-April 6, 2004). One day prior to the first alert, Charles Duelfer, the chief weapons inspector in Iraq, informed Congress that no WMD have been found to date.
January 7, 2004: CIA Misinforms German Intelligence about Terror Plot -- German intelligence sources claim that the CIA misinformed them about an alleged terror plot due to take place at a Hamburg hospital on December 30, 2003, and
allegedly fear that the information was planted.
December 21, 2003: FBI Compiles Massive Data on Las Vegas Tourists During Terror Alert -- The FBI quickly assembles data on most of the
1 million “potential suspects,”
December 21, 2003: Fifth Nationwide Orange Alert Is Based on False Information -- The terror alert turns out to be baseless. The names identified as terrorists turn out to be a five-year-old boy, whose name had been mistaken for an alleged Tunisian terrorist, an elderly Chinese lady who used to run a restaurant in Paris, a Welsh insurance salesman, and three French nationals.
December 18, 2003: Two Unsubstantiated Reports of Terrorist Activity-- Later, ABC News cites an anonymous intelligence source who warned of an
“imminent credible threat” in Manhattan from a “woman suicide bomber.” This news causes the stock exchange to dip, despite a rapid denial by police
September 5, 2003: Homeland Security Warns Al-Qaeda Planning New US Attacks -- The advisory contains non-specific warnings about multiple attacks against “soft” targets in both the US and abroad. No such attacks occur.
May 20, 2003: Dubious Orange Alert Announced for Memorial Day -- Homeland Security Secretary
Tom Ridge says there is no “credible, specific information” about targets or method of attack.” He does state that “weapons of mass destruction, including those containing chemical, biological or radiological agents or materials, cannot be discounted.”
March 17-18, 2003: FBI Alleges Al-Qaeda Likely to Attack to Help Saddam Hussein -- The attack claim is debunked by future
CIA director Porter Goss, then the chair of the House intelligence committee. He
states that there is no intelligence which suggests a new attack
March 17, 2003: Homeland Security Raises Threat Level, Advises Americans to Buy Duct Tape and Plastic Sheeting
David Ropeik of the Harvard Center for Risk Analysis says:
“Ridge and the department need to come up with a better way of saying, ‘Be afraid.’ They say, ‘Be alert,’ and then out of the other side of their mouth they say, ‘Go about your normal lives.’
March 17, 2003: Ricin Scare in Paris is False Alarm
February 7-13, 2003: Orange Alert Causes Duct Tape and Plastic Sheeting Buying Panic -- CIA Director George Tenet calls the threat
“the most specific we have seen” since 9/11 and says al-Qaeda
may use a “radiological dispersal device,
as well as poisons and chemicals.” ******** states that “this decision for an increased threat condition designation
is based on specific intelligence received and analyzed by the full intelligence community. This information has been corroborated by multiple intelligence sources.”
Which of course later….The threat is debunked on February 13, when the main source is finally given an FBI polygraph and fails it. Two senior law enforcement officials in Washington and New York state that a key piece of information leading to the terror alerts was fabricated. The claim made by a captured al-Qaeda member regarding a “dirty bomb” threat to Washington, New York, or Florida had proven to be
a product of his imagination.
The most credible, most analyzed and most scrutinized evidence for an attack on the United States since Sept. 11th turns out to be based on the imagination of one man.
January 7, 2003: British Officials Announce Discovery of Alleged Ricin Plot, but No Ricin Is Actually Found
December 27, 2002-January 1, 2003: Infiltration Story Based on Fabricated Information
The FBI realizes that the infiltration
story had been fabricated by Hamdani and retracts the terror alert on New Year’s Day
November 9, 2002: Poison Attack on London Subway Is
False Alarm
September 10, 2002: Threat Level Raised to Orange for First 9/11 Anniversary
Officials say there is
no specific known threat against targets in the US
Ok, this is a small sampling of terrorist alerts and warnings we have witnessed in this country. You want to tell me that you know whether or not these threats are real or fluff? How many times do you think you can kick a dog before it either up and leaves or bites you?
Now I will give you this much, Obama has a far better record of threat alerts and capturing terrorist types in the US than Bush ever did, but this is still not a reason to be afraid.
You are welcome to live in fear, in fact it is probably a product America could export in massive abundance. I am not afraid, I do not fear, and tomorrow I'll go about my life much as yesterday and the day before. It is people who live in this constant state of fear who the terrorist have beaten, because that is what terrorism is and that is what terrorist do. I for one will not let them win.