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Note that even in the case that everyone agrees cardiac surgery is necessary, one must wait 3 years to get the much-needed surgery performed.
Misleading. The wait times are extreme to the point of being newsworthy and they are the exception rather than the rule. The vast majority of heart conditions get treated on an emergency basis which is close to immediately.
So what is really going on is that the at risk heart patients get seen very quickly as they are considered an emergency. Routine stuff suffers as a result. The normal UK times for a non-emergency cardiologist visit are well under 90 days...Wales is (or rather was) scewed up.
Effective January 1, 2011, Section 4103 of the Affordable Care Act (ACA), allows for a preventive physical examination, called the annual wellness visit (AWV), and includes personal prevention plan services (PPPS). The AWV is a new annual Medicare preventive physical examination, available for eligible beneficiaries, and identified by new HCPCS codes G0438 (Annual wellness visit, including PPPS, first visit) and G0439 (Annual wellness visit, including PPPS, subsequent visit). Definitions relative to the AWV are included at Pub. 100-02, Medicare Benefit Policy Manual, chapter 15, section 280.5.
This goes on for a while, listing the different items that can be included in this annual wellness visit, and includes:
Voluntary advance care planning upon agreement with the individual, ...
1. It's probably important to point out that this is a VOLUNTARY service provided via Medicare. If you're on Medicare and you're not interested in end-of-life planning, that's your call.
2. If you do avail yourself of such planning, you call the shots.
3. And when you call the shots, you will be much better informed about various options ... options that you get to choose.
Life is not a soundbite, people, no matter how much so-called "leaders" on the right would have you believe that it is. Research, read for yourself, and make up your own damn mind.
Misleading. The wait times are extreme to the point of being newsworthy and they are the exception rather than the rule.
Incorrect. The heart surgeon lays out EXACTLY the time frame in which the steps to treatment take place. For those who seem to have a hard time comprehending what they read, I'll post it again:
Quote:
"Dr Liam Penny: "The waiting list to see a cardiologist is 18 months. "Once seen by a cardiologist, the waiting time to have the investigations is six months, and only then can the patients get on the waiting list for cardiac surgery.
"It's true that no-one is waiting over 10 months for surgery but the big problem is that the patient has to wait two years to get on that list. "It means it's nearly three years in total- that's a lot of uncertainty and ill-health for people."
Incorrect. The heart surgeon lays out EXACTLY the time frame in which the steps to treatment take place. For those who seem to have a hard time comprehending what they read, I'll post it again:
That is for a non-emergency situation. Read my lips "non-emergency"
It is also five years ago...
It was also newsworthy.
You really think they let heart attack victims lay there for a year?
That is for a non-emergency situation. Read my lips "non-emergency"
Incorrect. The heart surgeon made no indication whatsoever that the 3 year wait for heart surgery was for non-emergency cases only. He quite clearly was talking about patients with heart problems in need of heart surgery.
Why would anyone have heart surgery unless it was absolutely a matter of life or death?
Incorrect. The heart surgeon made no indication whatsoever that the 3 year wait for heart surgery was for non-emergency cases only. He quite clearly was talking about patients with heart problems in need of heart surgery.
Why would anyone have heart surgery unless it was absolutely a matter of life or death?
Then you ought to be able to pull up dozen of pictures of all the dead heart attack victims in all the English emergency rooms. One does not survive such things without cardio treatment involving cardiologists and surgeons. I speak from personal experience.
The saddest thing is that you can actually believe something so stupid simply because it fits your political preconceptions.
Doctors have been choosing what procedures are needed, can't be done, or when its time to give up the ghost since we've had witch doctors.
Someone who is 90 years old doesn't need a heat transplant if their liver is failing also.
"Death Panels" is just a marketing ploy, rationing of healthcare has occurred, is occurring, and will always occur regardless of what others will have you believe. Lets get real people, and worry about real problems.
Exactly! I do wish that more people understood it tho.
No, I believe it because a British heart surgeon said that is what actually happens.
What's sad is your inability to acknowledge the facts of what he said.
He said no such thing. You are still missing the underlying clause...
"For those cases where time is not an imperative and no large harm will result the schedule is..."
It is not difficult. You simply have your mind shut down to the obvious.
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Exactly! I do wish that more people understood it tho.
