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Old 12-31-2010, 11:33 AM
 
Location: California
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No, it's some other country's fault that the US has the highest teen birth rate.

One thing would be to teach basic health and reproduction, to include birth control.
It's clear that teaching abstinence only doesn't work.
How is it some other country's fault?

They do teach birth control but if the kids don't use it whats your solution? Forced birth control?
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Old 12-31-2010, 11:38 AM
 
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How is it some other country's fault?

They do teach birth control but if the kids don't use it whats your solution? Forced birth control?
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Ok so is it the USA's fault? I'm pretty sure theres no lack of contraceptives or education how to avoid pregnancy for males and females. Does this mean Teens here are stupid? could be. So whats the solution? forced birth control? can you force something upon Teens? is it their choice? there body?
Whats the fix? I don't know myself.
As indicated upthread, many places don't teach birth control, they teach abstinence (see Palin's daughter). Links are provided.

Note the smack emoticon in response to your question in red.
Who else would be responsible but the country that it's occurring in?
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Old 12-31-2010, 11:45 AM
 
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The United States has a huge black/minority population which tends to have a much higher rate of teen pregnancy. Just look at teen pregnancy rates by state and then compare that to black population percentage of those states. The higher the black population the higher the teen pregnancy rates are. Black teens have a higher rate because of many reasons, mostly because of a lack of basic education on average but it's also got a lot to do with poverty, single mother households and things like that.
The highest birth rates of all are from the illegal immigrants who will soon outnumber everyone. They already outnumber other groups in many maternity units. But of course the babies born have US citizenship which gives the parents and their extended families the right to stay.
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Old 12-31-2010, 11:47 AM
 
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How is it some other country's fault?

They do teach birth control but if the kids don't use it whats your solution? Forced birth control?
As long as the welfare handouts are as generous as they are, there are no downsides to having children and so the poor will have them. In fact what surer way do the poor have to get free housing, paid utilities, even cell phones than to produce babies.

It's our welfare system and open borders that are giving us the third world birth rates.
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Old 12-31-2010, 11:49 AM
 
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Once again the US is number 1.
Go USA.[/QUOTE]

Yeah so? whats your point? USA #1 so it's the USA's fault?
Do we force birth control on the teens? Is it their bodies? Do you really think teens don't know what gets a person pregnant?
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Old 12-31-2010, 11:53 AM
 
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Yeah so? whats your point? USA #1 so it's the USA's fault?
Do we force birth control on the teens? Is it their bodies? Do you really think teens don't know what gets a person pregnant?
It would be almost impossible today to find a 13 year old that has no idea at all where babies come from, so to believe that they lack knowledge about sex is naive.

Babies are cute - and the girls are even given baby showers in the schools today. They're encouraged because a baby costs them nothing and they see their friends with food stamp cards that look just like credit cards and who get their own apartments and whatever just by having a baby.

We don't allow poverty anymore so there is no down side.
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Old 12-31-2010, 11:59 AM
 
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It would be almost impossible today to find a 13 year old that has no idea at all where babies come from, so to believe that they lack knowledge about sex is naive.

Babies are cute - and the girls are even given baby showers in the schools today. They're encouraged because a baby costs them nothing and they see their friends with food stamp cards that look just like credit cards and who get their own apartments and whatever just by having a baby.

We don't allow poverty anymore so there is no down side.
Thats true and it makes it easier for them to do it but who is the real resoncable people here? not the school and not the USA, it's the parents job to teach their children and a lot of them do but there is a bunch who don't, Getto Momma has 8 kids by 8 men she's teaching her kid to continue the cycle, education wont change it if Mommy is the example of how to live.
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Old 12-31-2010, 12:09 PM
 
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It would be almost impossible today to find a 13 year old that has no idea at all where babies come from, so to believe that they lack knowledge about sex is naive.

Babies are cute - and the girls are even given baby showers in the schools today. They're encouraged because a baby costs them nothing and they see their friends with food stamp cards that look just like credit cards and who get their own apartments and whatever just by having a baby.

We don't allow poverty anymore so there is no down side.
More unicorns and rainbows.

"It’s estimated 64% of children living in poverty are the children of teen mothers. "

Teen Pregnancy, Part I: An American Epidemic - Amarillo Early Childhood Parenting | Examiner.com

And something else to keep in mind for all of those who think that the answer is simply closing one's legs and/or abstinence:

"Roughly 60% of girls state their first sexual experience before 15 was due to force, meaning rape and those interactions are responsible for about 10% of teen pregnancies."
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Old 12-31-2010, 12:13 PM
 
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Yeah so? whats your point? USA #1 so it's the USA's fault?
Do we force birth control on the teens? Is it their bodies? Do you really think teens don't know what gets a person pregnant?
Whose fault is it?
If the culture thinks this is a good thing, so be it.
If they think it's a bad thing, they need to fix it.
Education is a good place to start.

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Thats true and it makes it easier for them to do it but who is the real resoncable people here? not the school and not the USA, it's the parents job to teach their children and a lot of them do but there is a bunch who don't, Getto Momma has 8 kids by 8 men she's teaching her kid to continue the cycle, education wont change it if Mommy is the example of how to live.
Didn't take long for this to become a blame the AA community for a universal US problem. (Nice euphemism, btw, "Getto Momma").
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Old 12-31-2010, 02:59 PM
 
Location: California
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Whose fault is it?
If the culture thinks this is a good thing, so be it.
If they think it's a bad thing, they need to fix it.
Education is a good place to start.



Didn't take long for this to become a blame the AA community for a universal US problem. (Nice euphemism, btw, "Getto Momma").
I have a few Getto Mommy's in my family and by the way they call themselves that and are proud of it and they are white, not blaming blacks at all you added the AA not me, I blame the parents period it's their job to raise their children not the government, everybody wants to point their fingers and the truth be told they need to stand in front of the mirror when they do it.
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