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Old 01-03-2011, 08:47 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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Obama's new program..Race to the Top provides even more Fed funding to schools if they let the Fed take control of their curriculum by adopting standards set by the Fed.
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Old 01-04-2011, 12:14 AM
 
Location: California
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I am fully aware of these facts. None of which change my mind/opinion. Yes. We already have Federally funded school lunches with requirements for the nutritional value of those lunches.( And no, President Regan, Ketchup does NOT constitute a vegetable.) We do NOT need any more regulations, especially not from Michelle Obama. I would like to see LESS Federal Regulation in the schools. NOT more.
It's pretty much the same "regulation" just updated to reflect modern nutritional knowledge. If it's federally funded then the feds are responsible and should change things when necessary. Like when the food pyramid changed. Michelle didn't do anything but call attention to it, as First Ladies are prone to do with their pet projects. If it had happened without Michelles voice nobody would have said anything. They may even have praised the feds. I'm just so fracking stymied about the things people complain about when there are actully THINGS WORTH COMPLAINING ABOUT.
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Old 01-04-2011, 11:07 AM
 
Location: Home, Home on the Front Range
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Obama's new program..Race to the Top provides even more Fed funding to schools if they let the Fed take control of their curriculum by adopting standards set by the Fed.
As opposed to NCLB which did the pretty much the same thing minus the funding. And, Race to the Top is completely voluntary. If districts don't want to adhere to the standards, they don't have to participate. A little different than NCLB there too.

Regarding the school lunches, as already noted, nothing in this law prevents parents from feeding their children however they wish. If you send your child to school with lunch, you can continue to do so. If you prefer fill your child's lunch bag or box with rice crispy treats and hawaiian punch, you can continue to do so.
These improvements apply only to those lunches that are bought and paid for with federal dollars, so, if your child gets free or reduced price lunch courtesy of the USDA, or buys lunch at a school that receives federal funds to provide the food for that lunch, then your child will get a better quality lunch than he or she had previously received.
The choice is entirely yours. Don't want your child to eat what the feds consider healthy food? Do your own shopping and pack your child's lunch.
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Old 01-04-2011, 11:27 AM
 
Location: Gone
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How many first ladies had their husband sign a bill to help them with their pet project. ?
Should this be allowed??? Should it be sent to the floor to spend more taxpayers money on the verbal fighting between each member of congress???? Or who ever.
Who has the most Dems. Or Reps. ??
But, I am sure Dems will say Reps. Reps. will say Dems.
The first ladies should not be involved in any type of bills that effect the American Citizens.


Also, A report is out that the unemployment is down. HOW IN THE HECK do they figure this??? Because not many people are singing up. HELLLLLOOOOO Their unemployment ran out they can not get anymore. So, what group do these people fall into.. . People who have jobs.
I know at least 12 people who can not get unemployment any longer.
Does it bother you that Huckabee agrees with the first lady, oh and right now he is the front runner in the GOP for 2012.
Casper
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Old 01-04-2011, 11:28 AM
 
Location: Home, Home on the Front Range
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School programs should not rest on the appeasement of any special interest group. P.E. is a recognized School Subject that was part of the educational process long before the Feds started to get involved. Then came the Federal Testing mandates including NCLB (and yes, I am aware that was not this adm. doing) with their carrot of Fed. Funding dangling contingent on test results and away went all the extras that individual states could choose to offer so the schools could teach to the test and teach what the Fed Gov wanted taught. And it is only getting worse. Now, the Fed Gov is telling us what Michelle Obama thinks is healthy is what we can offer to feed the kids in school and what kind of fundraising we can do. And now the schools are using our tax money to feed more meals to kids in school. (Not just lunch, and then breakfast and now dinners.) It is too much Federal Control/Spending. The States used to be in control of the schools long before the Dept. of Education was founded. That meant more local input and more parental input. That was good! That is my opinion and I know yours is different and, at least for the time being, until Michelle Obama deems its unhealthy and we should all be thinking the same thoughts, that's fine. America = Freedom & Individuality. Not imprisoned in someones's Utopian Fantasy.
Perhaps, but, apparently not successfully. The more things change...

Not old enough, perhaps, to remember or know about this?

"There had been grumbling by officers of the armed forces about the condition of draftees during both World War II and the Korean War. But concern about the problem peaked in his [Eisenhower's] first administration with publication of the work of Dr. Hans Kraus and Ruth Hirschland (better known professionally as Bonnie Prudden), whose study of American children found them alarmingly deficient in fitness compared to children in other countries. President Eisenhower established the President's Council on Youth Fitness with Executive Order 10673, issued on July 16, 1956."

The Federal Government Takes on Physical Fitness - John F. Kennedy Presidential Library & Museum

Of course, federal interest in physical fitness really took off with Kennedy and was expanded under Johnson, as noted in the link. The high point of federal involvement in PE was under Ronald Reagan when an actual PE test was instituted.

"Developed under President Ronald Reagan in 1986, the Challenge included the President's Physical Fitness Test, which measured several physical abilities and has since been taken annually by every PE student in the country."


Of course NCLB changed all that, leading to this:
"But according to reporter Nancy Armour of the Associated Press, many schools had to cut PE and arts classes to devote more time and funding to preparing kids for state academic testing. A CDC study showed that only 4 percent of elementary schools, 8 percent of middle schools and 2 percent of high schools required daily PE for all students all year."

History of Physical Education in American Schools | eHow.com

Seems only right that the feds, led by our wonderful First Lady, would make some attempt to correct the mess they made with NCLB.
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Old 01-04-2011, 02:45 PM
 
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Default Guess what I have that FREEDOM to (whine) so far. However if someone has a question and a comment

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Well ladyofnorth, you may have meant it to be a simple question but considering we're all on a computer where the answer to your simple question could have easily been found, it came across more like whining. Just letting you know how it appears to those of us reading it.


I Love it FREEDOM wo be ahinner.
No one comment now you will be a whinner baby.
Hows that song go GOT to LOVE the Amercian RIDE
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Old 01-05-2011, 08:15 PM
 
Location: Orlando, FL
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I Love it FREEDOM wo be ahinner.
No one comment now you will be a whinner baby.
Hows that song go GOT to LOVE the Amercian RIDE
No one called you a whiner; I told you how your post came across.

But if you want to cry then go for it.
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Old 01-05-2011, 09:20 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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As opposed to NCLB which did the pretty much the same thing minus the funding. And, Race to the Top is completely voluntary. If districts don't want to adhere to the standards, they don't have to participate. A little different than NCLB there too.

Regarding the school lunches, as already noted, nothing in this law prevents parents from feeding their children however they wish. If you send your child to school with lunch, you can continue to do so. If you prefer fill your child's lunch bag or box with rice crispy treats and hawaiian punch, you can continue to do so.
These improvements apply only to those lunches that are bought and paid for with federal dollars, so, if your child gets free or reduced price lunch courtesy of the USDA, or buys lunch at a school that receives federal funds to provide the food for that lunch, then your child will get a better quality lunch than he or she had previously received.
The choice is entirely yours. Don't want your child to eat what the feds consider healthy food? Do your own shopping and pack your child's lunch.
NCLB came with funding and it's tied to testing scores.
-score passing and they get money.
-attendance stats determine funding too

No Child Left Behind Act - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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Old 01-06-2011, 06:17 AM
 
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Does it bother you that Huckabee agrees with the first lady, oh and right now he is the front runner in the GOP for 2012.
Casper
He is?
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Old 01-06-2011, 06:56 AM
 
Location: Brooklyn New York
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oh goodie, so now in the year 2011, our children will "finally" be able to eat healthy....too bad my 3 sons have already graduated college........darn, where was Michelle when we needed her????????
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