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Old 01-04-2011, 08:01 AM
 
Location: Florida
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True though he did participate in the 2008 presidential debates.

Paul wants to do away with the Fed, bring all our troops home...even from Germany, Japan and S. Korea, do away with the IRS and cut government 50%. I would support him in at least half of his radical ideas.
Yes, he participated, but they wouldn't let him to talk. When he got his rare chances to say something, you could hear McCain and Romney snicker in the background. It was sickening.
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Old 01-04-2011, 08:02 AM
 
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LMAO!

Where were they while George W. Bush was borrowing six trillion...nearly a trillion from Communist Chinese banks? When Bush's two terms were completed he had doubled the national debt from $5.7 trillion to more than $11 trillion and that caused the annual interest to double. The only annual expense our government has which is larger than the interest on the debt is the military/defense budget.

Other than that all he did was crash the economy.
Are you saying that these are ads originated by Fox or is Fox merely running ads bought and paid for by some group or other? That makes a big difference.
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Old 01-04-2011, 08:12 AM
 
Location: Gone
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please show me where "Bush" borrowed from the chiniese....BTW...it was clinton that got china into the world bank, and the WTO

and obama has increase the debt by 3 trillion in less than 2 years...
Do a google search and you will find all the data you need, it was news at the time and anyone paying attention to politics at the time was aware of them.
Yes, much of it spent to keep us from our economy failing totally, would you rather he let banks and businesses fail, does not sound very much like loyal Repub thinking since they always defend big business and anything they do. I would have prefered less was spent but even Repubs knew the spending was needed, do you recall McCain rushing back to Washingtoon during the debates so that he could vote for the funds along with th rest of the GOP?
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Old 01-04-2011, 08:35 AM
 
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Do you listen to Fox daily? i have for years and it seems to me that I heard plenty from them while Bush was in office. Besides that someone has to stand up for the GOP with the rest of the TV media on the side of the Dems.
I listen nearly every morning, always good to keep an eye on what is being passed off as news to the American People. I do not recall any real outrage during the Bush years over his borrowing and spending he always had an excuse for them and the far right was fine with them, a few real conservatives did say something but they were drowned out by their fellow GOP members. Yes, far too much "news" is slanted these days, hard to get the real info without doing alot of leg work, many MSM make no bones about being slanted and FOX has also admitted to being such. Why is it that instead of creating a news station that provided the news without a slant did FOX think it was better to create just another slanted news station (which they admit to), let me answer for ya, $$$$$$$$
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Old 01-04-2011, 08:40 AM
 
Location: PA
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Foreign debt paid for the Revolutionary War. I wonder if Beck will teach that in his classes(sic).

Its was funded by common enemies of the BRITISH EMPIRE. Foreign debit should be temporary in extreme situations and if you need to run your government 14 trillion in debit via foreign or domestic your government is done.
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Old 01-04-2011, 08:44 AM
 
Location: Florida
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Do a google search and you will find all the data you need, it was news at the time and anyone paying attention to politics at the time was aware of them.
The problem is that those who watched only FOX "news", would not have heard about it while it was happening.
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Old 01-04-2011, 08:52 AM
 
Location: PA
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Fox News is a station based 2 different idealogies those who have common sense, believe in sound economic and social practices and those who are neocon, socialist, fascist, religious fanatics.
From 2000 to the 2008 election fox news was run by the neocon, socialist, fascists, religious fanatics.
It more then likely still is and just waiting to control the air waves again to any idiot who will vote for another neo con bush type in 2012. There is nothing rouge about Sarah Palin and if she is rouge its only temporary to show she is different then the neocon, hawkish, policeman of the world, socialist, Federal Reserve loving middle America traditional values who think the government sets the moral compass of the nation.

In this world we need one message its the same one we heard in 2008 by Ron Paul.
We live in times where truth is treason in a empire of lies. Fox News supported the lies, ignored common sense, and while Ron Paul predicted the economic crisis in 2008 and ignored him and made fun of him, now he is a regular guest.
Fox News will be tested come 2012 will it be the voice of reason and the message of true constitutional freedom from Ron Paul or will it be Sarah Palin's and Mitt Romney's cheer leading squad.
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Old 01-04-2011, 09:31 AM
 
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Fox News is a station based 2 different idealogies those who have common sense, believe in sound economic and social practices and those who are neocon, socialist, fascist, religious fanatics.
From 2000 to the 2008 election fox news was run by the neocon, socialist, fascists, religious fanatics.
It more then likely still is and just waiting to control the air waves again to any idiot who will vote for another neo con bush type in 2012. There is nothing rouge about Sarah Palin and if she is rouge its only temporary to show she is different then the neocon, hawkish, policeman of the world, socialist, Federal Reserve loving middle America traditional values who think the government sets the moral compass of the nation.

In this world we need one message its the same one we heard in 2008 by Ron Paul.
We live in times where truth is treason in a empire of lies. Fox News supported the lies, ignored common sense, and while Ron Paul predicted the economic crisis in 2008 and ignored him and made fun of him, now he is a regular guest.
Fox News will be tested come 2012 will it be the voice of reason and the message of true constitutional freedom from Ron Paul or will it be Sarah Palin's and Mitt Romney's cheer leading squad.
I realize it's not exactly what you implied but I cannot imagine that there are enough ignorant voters in this country to elect an ex beauty queen, half terming, single minded, tea party screaming opportunist gal who can see Russia from her back yard as not only president but even candidate for president of our great republic.

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Old 01-04-2011, 10:22 AM
 
Location: Tampa Florida
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I realize it's not exactly what you implied but I cannot imagine that there are enough ignorant voters in this country to elect an ex beauty queen, half terming, single minded, tea party screaming opportunist gal who can see Russia from her back yard as not only president but even candidate for president of our great republic.
Ahh, did you happen to notice the results this past Nov. I think, assuming they wouldn't be that short sighted, may be a bad assumption. I think we saw the power of 24/7 propaganda channel and unlimited spec int spending.
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Old 01-04-2011, 10:24 AM
 
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Ahh, did you happen to notice the results this past Nov. I think, assuming they wouldn't be that short sighted, may be a bad assumption.
I can certainly hope they aren't.
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