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Old 01-04-2011, 07:12 PM
 
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After Francisco "Quico" Canseco beat Rep. Ciro Rodriguez (D-Tex.) as part of the Republican wave on Nov. 2, the tea party favorite declared: "It's going to be a new day in Washington."

After winning election with an anti-Washington battle cry, Canseco and other incoming Republican freshmen have rapidly embraced the capital's culture of big-money fundraisers, according to new campaign-finance reports and other records.

Incoming GOP freshmen rapidly embracing big-money fundraisers
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Old 01-04-2011, 07:15 PM
 
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What's your point? All representives MUST fundraise to stay in office.
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Old 01-04-2011, 07:17 PM
 
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After Francisco "Quico" Canseco beat Rep. Ciro Rodriguez (D-Tex.) as part of the Republican wave on Nov. 2, the tea party favorite declared: "It's going to be a new day in Washington."

After winning election with an anti-Washington battle cry, Canseco and other incoming Republican freshmen have rapidly embraced the capital's culture of big-money fundraisers, according to new campaign-finance reports and other records.
Incoming GOP freshmen rapidly embracing big-money fundraisers
Why don't the career Progressives in Congress swear off all fundraisers and PAC money and set an example for the new kids on the Hill?
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Old 01-04-2011, 07:20 PM
 
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So much for The Tea Party and the high hopes of their supporters. It's business as usual as all line their pockets and line up for the revolving door of politicians to lobbyists and vice versa. It's just that simple.
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Old 01-04-2011, 07:28 PM
 
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The conservative reformers are just like the rest. They will put it to the little guy but not get rid of corporate welfare.
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Old 01-04-2011, 07:34 PM
 
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In the Tea Party narrative, victory at the polls means a new American revolution, one that will "take our country back" from everyone they disapprove of. But what they don't realize is, there's a catch: This is America, and we have an entrenched oligarchical system in place that insulates us all from any meaningful political change. The Tea Party today is being pitched in the media as this great threat to the GOP; in reality, the Tea Party is the GOP. What few elements of the movement aren't yet under the control of the Republican Party soon will be, and even if a few genuine Tea Party candidates sneak through, it's only a matter of time before the uprising as a whole gets castrated, just like every grass-roots movement does in this country. Its leaders will be bought off and sucked into the two-party bureaucracy, where its platform will be whittled down until the only things left are those that the GOP's campaign contributors want anyway: top-bracket tax breaks, free trade and financial deregulation.
The Truth About the Tea Party | Rolling Stone Politics
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Old 01-04-2011, 07:41 PM
 
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After Francisco "Quico" Canseco beat Rep. Ciro Rodriguez (D-Tex.) as part of the Republican wave on Nov. 2, the tea party favorite declared: "It's going to be a new day in Washington."

After winning election with an anti-Washington battle cry, Canseco and other incoming Republican freshmen have rapidly embraced the capital's culture of big-money fundraisers, according to new campaign-finance reports and other records.
Incoming GOP freshmen rapidly embracing big-money fundraisers
Tea party with those names, huh, I thought it was the coffee party or the steroid party. The tea party republicans with some diversity how bout that.
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Old 01-04-2011, 09:35 PM
 
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In the Tea Party narrative, victory at the polls means a new American revolution, one that will "take our country back" from everyone they disapprove of. But what they don't realize is, there's a catch: This is America, and we have an entrenched oligarchical system in place that insulates us all from any meaningful political change. The Tea Party today is being pitched in the media as this great threat to the GOP; in reality, the Tea Party is the GOP. What few elements of the movement aren't yet under the control of the Republican Party soon will be, and even if a few genuine Tea Party candidates sneak through, it's only a matter of time before the uprising as a whole gets castrated, just like every grass-roots movement does in this country. Its leaders will be bought off and sucked into the two-party bureaucracy, where its platform will be whittled down until the only things left are those that the GOP's campaign contributors want anyway: top-bracket tax breaks, free trade and financial deregulation.
The Truth About the Tea Party | Rolling Stone Politics
Left-wingers love to use the word "oligarchy" repeatedly in describing our government. Whereas the two-party system has its weaknesses, it does have an inherent mechanism for moderating extremes through forcing platforms that can draw a majority vote.

Problem is, lefties essentially want a European-style mish-mash of Balkanized parties. Totally ineffective.
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Old 01-04-2011, 09:51 PM
 
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Left-wingers love to use the word "oligarchy" repeatedly in describing our government. Whereas the two-party system has its weaknesses, it does have an inherent mechanism for moderating extremes through forcing platforms that can draw a majority vote.

Problem is, lefties essentially want a European-style mish-mash of Balkanized parties. Totally ineffective.
The Rise Of The Oligarchy -- How The U.S. Became a Country “Of The Rich, By The Rich, For The Rich”
The Rise Of The Oligarchy — How The U.S. Became a Country

When something bites you on the butt, it helps to identify the source. "Oligarchy" is not just a word being tossed out randomly. The events and policies speak for themselves.
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Old 01-04-2011, 10:07 PM
 
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Left-wingers love to use the word "oligarchy" repeatedly in describing our government. Whereas the two-party system has its weaknesses, it does have an inherent mechanism for moderating extremes through forcing platforms that can draw a majority vote.

Problem is, lefties essentially want a European-style mish-mash of Balkanized parties. Totally ineffective.
I'm not sure where you're getting your information, but today's left seems to be much more unified than the right. The real danger for the Republicans is the Tea Party. The Wall St/country club branch of the party wanted their votes in November, but they also want to be able to control the T.P's. more extreme elements. Easier said than done. I've noticed that they seem to be distancing themselves from the likes of Sarah Palin and Christine O'Donnell; they want their energy and voters, but they don't want their extremist politics. I wouldn't be surprised if the Tea Party bolts and forms a third party with its own candidates, platform, etc.. Regardless, the 2012 Republican primaries should make for interesting political theater. The frontrunners include a Mormon, a former Baptist preacher, and a former governor of Alaska who cared so little about her public service to her state that she quit halfway through her first term in order to cash-in on her 'brand'. I actually like 2 of the 4 front-runners and think that both Romney and Huckabee have the qualities one needs to become president, although politically I'm on the other side of the fence. I suspect that the evangelical wing of the Republican Party will go after Romney like they did in 2008 (the 2008 election revealed a surprising animosity between the 2 groups) The country club/Wall St. wing of the party will go after both Palin and Huckabee. Newt Gingrich has way too much political and personal baggage to make it very far, and he also has a 'mouth' with far too many feet in it. Let the show begin.

BTW, I've never heard anyone on the left refer to the government as an "oligarchy". That term is usually reserved for those who reside in the top 2% of the income bracket.
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