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View Poll Results: Do you accept the government's report on the Earth's temperature as factual?
Yes, I accept the report as factual 19 32.76%
No, I reject it 34 58.62%
Not sure 5 8.62%
Voters: 58. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 01-13-2011, 06:18 PM
 
Location: Imaginary Figment
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Do I hear heads exploding?
Denial in 3, 2, 1 ...
We only accept the government's reports when there is a Republican in office and he says it's time to invade another country. Other than that...forget it.
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Old 01-13-2011, 07:41 PM
 
Location: Chicagoland
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Oh c'mon there is. 9 out of 10 experts on the topic will agree that it is man made.
Incorrect. There are 50-200 of the cabal that are a consensus. Even those that worked on the IPCC report now disavow some of the unnfounded un-peer reviewed gray literature that was used to make their doomsday prediction, of which they have had to backpedal on - like the glaciers, like the ice cap, like the sea levels - none of which is behaving as predicted.
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Old 01-13-2011, 08:00 PM
 
Location: Meggett, SC
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Incorrect. There are 50-200 of the cabal that are a consensus. Even those that worked on the IPCC report now disavow some of the unnfounded un-peer reviewed gray literature that was used to make their doomsday prediction, of which they have had to backpedal on - like the glaciers, like the ice cap, like the sea levels - none of which is behaving as predicted.
I agree. There are multiple reports from very well respected scientists that disagree with both the models used and the conclusions drawn from those to push forward the global warming theory. In fact, the change in terminology from global warming to climate change is partly in response to the criticism. Additionally, a scientist will never say never as everything associated with global warming is theory and the entire idea of science is to constantly evaluate, experiment, and study. Unfortunately, money does have an adversial effect upon science in modern times and the result has been some questionable scientific conclusions.

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Old 01-14-2011, 09:48 AM
 
Location: AL
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Ok to all the people out there that think its ...."peoples fault".............Lets go back to a time when people did exist.
How do you explain all the crazy weather then?
Hot/Cold/snow/rain.......Yet people didnt exist....so....Sssplain to me.
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Old 01-14-2011, 09:52 AM
 
Location: Chicagoland
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Ok to all the people out there that think its ...."peoples fault".............Lets go back to a time when people did exist.
How do you explain all the crazy weather then?
Hot/Cold/snow/rain.......Yet people didnt exist....so....Sssplain to me.
Well, not just hot/cold, but glaciers running all the way down to FL and a tropical rain forest in Canada.

Of course they can't explain that, doesn't count.
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Old 01-14-2011, 09:54 AM
 
Location: Meggett, SC
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Ok to all the people out there that think its ...."peoples fault".............Lets go back to a time when people did exist.
How do you explain all the crazy weather then?
Hot/Cold/snow/rain.......Yet people didnt exist....so....Sssplain to me.
Stop using logic - that would ruin their perceptions!
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Old 01-14-2011, 09:58 AM
 
Location: Unperson Everyman Land
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Why not? The majority of experts and scientists agree that global warming is man made. Why would you not believe them?


Because no one will fund a study to examine why nothing unusual is happening.

Research scientist feed from the hand of government in the form of research grants. Governments seek to control the people by whatever means present themselves. Together they have found an issue which serves their mutual parasitic needs (see cap and trade).

Now, I'd love to sit here and chat, but I have a car to dig out.
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Old 01-14-2011, 10:03 AM
 
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NOAA: 2010 tied for Earth's warmest year on record - USATODAY.com

What does this report mean to you, if anything?


Incorrect, 2010 is not the warmest year, nor was it a tie with the warmest year.

Check it yourself.

CONTIGUOUS UNITED STATES Climate Summary
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Old 01-14-2011, 10:06 AM
 
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To those who reject it, you must believe there's a conspiracy by the U.S. Government, correct? The report is simply stating that the Earth's temperature is at a record high.

Why do you reject it, and what would it take for you to believe the report?
No, we simply use the actual data to come to the conclusion and not sensationalized political motives to promote fallacy. See my above response to you, look up the records yourself. The NOAA is in conflict with its own records, though this isn't the first time and it is exactly why there are so many problems with the climate science field and why these agencies get bombarded with FOIA requests concerning their methods within the reports they do make.
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Old 01-14-2011, 10:10 AM
 
Location: Meggett, SC
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No, we simply use the actual data to come to the conclusion and not sensationalized political motives to promote fallacy. See my above response to you, look up the records yourself. The NOAA is in conflict with its own records, though this isn't the first time and it is exactly why there are so many problems with the climate science field and why these agencies get bombarded with FOIA requests concerning their methods within the reports they do make.
Well they do have a history of throwing out conflicting data to their POV. In actuality, the measurement of climate is actually quite challenging but even then, there is still conflict because scientists want to "adjust" for those measurement challenges. Goes against every tenet of being a scientist, in my opinion.
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