Censor music? (ratings, carry, constitution, kids)

[oz in SC]

Originally Posted by Deezus

Madonna? Gangster rap?

This whole thread is like a flashback to the early 90s... Isn't Madonna in her early 60s at this point?

LOL....and she is now English...

[MIKEETC]

Originally Posted by nightflight

We have heard a lot from various voices, some of them here, about how we need to "tone down" our rhetoric, lest there be violence. I am reminded of the lyrics of some songs, especially hardcore rap, which contains very violent lyrics. Who's to know how much violence has occured because of this music? Even if you can't point to a particular act of violence, the music is still out there (just like, we are told that even if the recent shooting can't be proven to be an effect of harsh political rhetoric, we still must be careful what we say). For some young people, hardcore rap is the soundtrack of their lives.

So what do you think, people? Progressives, should there be calls for rap artists to "tone down" their violent lyrics? And if not, why not?

I will never say yes to censorship.

[Moth]

Originally Posted by nightflight

We have heard a lot from various voices, some of them here, about how we need to "tone down" our rhetoric, lest there be violence. I am reminded of the lyrics of some songs, especially hardcore rap, which contains very violent lyrics. Who's to know how much violence has occured because of this music? Even if you can't point to a particular act of violence, the music is still out there (just like, we are told that even if the recent shooting can't be proven to be an effect of harsh political rhetoric, we still must be careful what we say). For some young people, hardcore rap is the soundtrack of their lives.

So what do you think, people? Progressives, should there be calls for rap artists to "tone down" their violent lyrics? And if not, why not?

Back in my left leaning youth (yes, we all have our dark secrets), my comrades and I used to sing along with the Clash with particular enthusiasm.

I especially liked the line, "Burn down the suburbs with a half-closed eye". I threw that one out with verve fueled by a lot of beer.

But I never thought of actually doing it.

Music, drugs, Palin, TV, comic books, Dungeons & Dragons- none of them can make you do anything that you are not already capable of doing.

So cease the search for the scapegoat.

[Pretzelogik]

Originally Posted by nightflight

We have heard a lot from various voices, some of them here, about how we need to "tone down" our rhetoric, lest there be violence. I am reminded of the lyrics of some songs, especially hardcore rap, which contains very violent lyrics. Who's to know how much violence has occured because of this music? Even if you can't point to a particular act of violence, the music is still out there (just like, we are told that even if the recent shooting can't be proven to be an effect of harsh political rhetoric, we still must be careful what we say). For some young people, hardcore rap is the soundtrack of their lives.

So what do you think, people? Progressives, should there be calls for rap artists to "tone down" their violent lyrics? And if not, why not?

Hey that's minority stuff...Can't touch that...

[LuckyGem]

Originally Posted by nightflight

We have heard a lot from various voices, some of them here, about how we need to "tone down" our rhetoric, lest there be violence. I am reminded of the lyrics of some songs, especially hardcore rap, which contains very violent lyrics. Who's to know how much violence has occured because of this music? Even if you can't point to a particular act of violence, the music is still out there (just like, we are told that even if the recent shooting can't be proven to be an effect of harsh political rhetoric, we still must be careful what we say). For some young people, hardcore rap is the soundtrack of their lives.

So what do you think, people? Progressives, should there be calls for rap artists to "tone down" their violent lyrics? And if not, why not?

Rap music isn't the same as it was 20 years ago. You probably couldn't name a "hardcore rap" artist. And if you could you'd see the sales are not trending in that direction any more. The genre has evolved into something else.

I think there are other things to be concerned about rather than music lyrics.

[Memphis1979]

Originally Posted by workingclasshero

why should eithers have 'more' meaning???

if biden or cheney both said the same as madona, springsteen or 50cent does it matter...if the persons refers to volence (let's kill cops, let's hang bush or obama, let's kill all the lawyers, etc), is it not the same no matter whom it comes from???



as country joes said, "one, two, three ,what are we fighting for"

Our voted leaders words have more meaning to most people than musicians.

[Lithium]

I don't blame Palin or any rhetoric really, so blaming this (shooting) incident on that (rhetoric) would be hypocritical from me, considering all the years of defending games like Grand Theft Auto to social conservatives...

[tb4000]

If anything, video games(which I am also not in favor of censoring) are more violent than music is nowadays.

[JazzyTallGuy]

Originally Posted by TXboomerang

Whichever one is more likely to be listened to regularly. So Madonna in your example.

I haven't listened to Madonna a years.

[JazzyTallGuy]

Originally Posted by Driller1

Then video games???

Good point, gangsta rap TALKS about shooting people. Video games have people ACTUALLY SHOOTING people.