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Old 01-18-2011, 07:08 AM
 
Location: Londonderry, NH
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IMHO the definition of gun control is simple.

It is the ability to select a legitimate target and hit it with the first shot.

There is no need for further controls on law abiding citizens. Any citizen should be able to purchase, own and carry any weapon they please for whatever reason they please. If they use the gun to harm someone without the overriding reason of defense of self, family and strangers under assault the gun user must take the responsibility and face the proper penalties under law. Simply stated it is carry whatever you want but be responsible for what you shoot.

I would stop an assault with deadly force without remorse.
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Old 01-18-2011, 08:38 AM
 
Location: Beautiful NNJ
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aren't the criminals to blame for this?

Do you have insurance?
Do you have a fire extinguisher in your home?
Not entirely, yes, and yes.

I think in many cases the threat is way smaller than the perception of the threat, and the media is in large part to blame for this. I also didn't hover over my children at the playground in fear of abduction when they were small. They even (gasp!) walked themselves home from school at age 9.

I have insurance and a fire extinguisher because falling branches or a house fire is exponentially more likely to impact our lives than is an armed attacker.

I protect against reasonable threats, not every worst-case scenario. It's a quality-of-life thing, for me.
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Old 01-18-2011, 08:54 AM
 
Location: North Cackelacky....in the hills.
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Not entirely, yes, and yes.

I think in many cases the threat is way smaller than the perception of the threat, and the media is in large part to blame for this.

I have insurance and a fire extinguisher because falling branches or a house fire is exponentially more likely to impact our lives than is an armed attacker.

I protect against reasonable threats, not every worst-case scenario. It's a quality-of-life thing, for me.
Who else is to blame?

Why do you have insurance?
Because of the possibility of damage to your home.

Why do you have a fire extinguisher?
In case there is a fire.

How often have you made a claim for damage?

How often has your house caught on fire?

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I also didn't hover over my children at the playground in fear of abduction when they were small. They even (gasp!) walked themselves home from school at age 9.
It is a wonder they are still alive...LOL
We used to roam around the entire day without any supervision,I used to ride my bike to school(10 miles or so) by myself as well....funny how THAT has all changed.
Of course,that was in Australia.
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Old 01-18-2011, 09:21 AM
 
Location: Londonderry, NH
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When I was a kid we could carry around Daisy Air Rifles without anyone commenting. But we had not been trained to be fearful of everything in the late 1950's.
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Old 01-18-2011, 09:30 AM
 
Location: Beautiful NNJ
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Who else is to blame?

Why do you have insurance?
Because of the possibility of damage to your home.

Why do you have a fire extinguisher?
In case there is a fire.

How often have you made a claim for damage?

How often has your house caught on fire?
Our deductible is so high that we don't make claims for routine damages. But we've definitely had tree damage that others would have filed for.

And the house I own was completely gutted by fire in 1991. It happens. My family was kept from being ruined by a good homeowner's policy.

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When I was a kid we could carry around Daisy Air Rifles without anyone commenting. But we had not been trained to be fearful of everything in the late 1950's.
I'm training my kids the same way. That's my point--there's no need to be fearful of everything. And hence, no need to own a gun in our area. Some risks are more real than others.
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Old 01-18-2011, 09:54 AM
 
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Our deductible is so high that we don't make claims for routine damages. But we've definitely had tree damage that others would have filed for.

And the house I own was completely gutted by fire in 1991. It happens. My family was kept from being ruined by a good homeowner's policy.



I'm training my kids the same way. That's my point--there's no need to be fearful of everything. And hence, no need to own a gun in our area. Some risks are more real than others.
Understand we are just trying to understand your way of thinking....I don't think anyone is saying your wrong with the way you think....It's just not "right to us."

Many years ago in Kentucky....we used to leave our houes doors unlocked also, nighttime, daytime...anytime....

Leave the keys in our cars at night...

when we would run in and get a pop/coke or what ever...leave the car running....

No way in heck would I do that now....

I hope your neighbor hood does not change for the worse....and you can continue like that.....

But as you keep a fire extinguisher....I keeep a gun....and fire extinguisher...
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Old 01-18-2011, 09:56 AM
 
Location: North Cackelacky....in the hills.
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Our deductible is so high that we don't make claims for routine damages. But we've definitely had tree damage that others would have filed for.
So it is just on case?


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And the house I own was completely gutted by fire in 1991. It happens. My family was kept from being ruined by a good homeowner's policy.
Sorry to hear that.
So once in your lifetime a fire happened,yet you still have an extinguisher on hand.Just in case I guess?



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I'm training my kids the same way. That's my point--there's no need to be fearful of everything. And hence, no need to own a gun in our area. Some risks are more real than others.
But you seem to have a fear of firearms....
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Old 01-18-2011, 10:20 AM
 
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aren't the criminals to blame for this?
No, of course not, social injustice, racism and bad parenting are the cause of all crime therefore it is your duty to submit to any demand of indignity placed upon you by a would be robber/rapist/muderer. How dare any of us place our desire to live above the health, welfare and self esteem of a criminal!

Imagine what being shot in a robbery attempt would do to the self confidence of a criminal!
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Old 01-18-2011, 10:44 PM
 
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No, of course not, social injustice, racism and bad parenting are the cause of all crime therefore it is your duty to submit to any demand of indignity placed upon you by a would be robber/rapist/muderer. How dare any of us place our desire to live above the health, welfare and self esteem of a criminal!

Imagine what being shot in a robbery attempt would do to the self confidence of a criminal!
Something to brag about in prison... unless you hit them right.
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Old 01-19-2011, 08:04 AM
 
Location: San Diego California
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You know what? I would MUCH rather be the victim of a robbery than carry around the burden of having killed another human being for the rest of my life. To me, no amount of property is worth that horror.
Typical victim mentality.
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