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Old 01-16-2011, 11:42 PM
 
Location: Boise
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...Watch Undercover Boss.

When a "CEO" can't do the most basic job that he pays his workers crap wages to do, nor has a clue about how the policies he and his well heeled corporate execs effect their workforce or their product it tells you volumes about the condition of American companies.

I read a lot of nostalgic posts on these boards about returning to the Constitution, or 19th century economic principles, well I would like to go back to a time when CEO's weren't just hired guns but folks that really understood their core business.
excellent!! you hit the nail on the head...
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Old 01-16-2011, 11:51 PM
 
Location: California
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There are good CEO's and bad ones. I don't expect them to know how to do every job under them, that's nuts, but they do need to have an understanding of the workflow from the bottom up, and what the employees deal with.
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Old 01-17-2011, 09:07 AM
 
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I don't expect them to know how to do every job under them, that's nuts,
Nuts?

Sort trash?

Put a screw in a wall?

And these are the CEO's who are actually willing to go into the bottom wrung of their company and be humiliated on national television!
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Old 01-17-2011, 09:11 AM
 
Location: North Cackelacky....in the hills.
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This topic is a bit of a stretch....

Why would the owner of a company know the nuts and bolts of how the work is done?

Should the CEo of GM know how to paint a car?
Or work the production line?

Should Obama know how to fly a helicopter or pilot a drone?
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Old 01-17-2011, 09:44 AM
 
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...Watch Undercover Boss.

When a "CEO" can't do the most basic job that he pays his workers crap wages to do, nor has a clue about how the policies he and his well heeled corporate execs effect their workforce or their product it tells you volumes about the condition of American companies.

I read a lot of nostalgic posts on these boards about returning to the Constitution, or 19th century economic principles, well I would like to go back to a time when CEO's weren't just hired guns but folks that really understood their core business.
You do realize this is a TV program geared towards ratings.......they have a camera man following them around........If you want to say this is a legit then you must also acknowledge that about all other "Reality" tv shows! Wife swap, Real housewives..........
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Old 01-17-2011, 10:29 AM
 
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Should the CEo of GM know how to paint a car?
Or work the production line?
There's a difference between service industries and production. For most service industries, the value is generated right on the front line, and the CEO should be able to understand the workflow in detail, because his decisions can have huge and immediate ramifications.

Production industry is different, because there's presumably an established base of owners already using the product, so bad decisions do not trigger immediate effects.

The CEO of GM needs to understand to considerable detail what can and cannot be done with the tools and methods at his disposal and having an industry background helps immensely. Obviously he cannot have the aggregate skills of every worker or engineer. Without deep understanding, unless a CEO is very good at surrounding himself with - and listening to - those who do have the knowledge, he's not going to make good decisions.

Nobody expects Bill Gates to sit down and code a few modules of the next Windows release. But he has been writing code for a living, so he gets what problems can and can't be solved with programming.

On the flip side, Carly Fiorina mismanaging HP is the classical example of a CEO of a technical business not understanding what the business actually did.
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Old 01-17-2011, 10:37 AM
 
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Yeah, I watched an episode.

I've always found generally that the sophistication of the delegation of . . . everything . . is . . stupid.
You don't actually expect the master to pick cotton do you?

Of course, I know YOU don't ... I use the "you" generically.
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Old 01-17-2011, 10:42 AM
 
Location: Texas
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You do realize this is a TV program geared towards ratings.......they have a camera man following them around........If you want to say this is a legit then you must also acknowledge that about all other "Reality" tv shows! Wife swap, Real housewives..........
That's right!

A "new" employee suddenly and mysteriously shows up for work followed by a camera crew and who looks suspiciously just like the CEO pictured on the bulletin board in the back of the store, and nobody notices?

I can't imagine that people are truly dumb enough to swallow this horse manure, let along develop a philosophy of management/worker relations from it!

I mean, gee whiz, people! How blatant does it have to be? Are you REALLY that gullible?
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Old 01-17-2011, 11:04 AM
 
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...Watch Undercover Boss.

When a "CEO" can't do the most basic job that he pays his workers crap wages to do, nor has a clue about how the policies he and his well heeled corporate execs effect their workforce or their product it tells you volumes about the condition of American companies.

I read a lot of nostalgic posts on these boards about returning to the Constitution, or 19th century economic principles, well I would like to go back to a time when CEO's weren't just hired guns but folks that really understood their core business.
I disagree. I was once hired to start a new division in a company that they had never been involved in.

Smart CEO's hire experts to do many things that need to be done that they don't know how to do themselves.

Do you think every CEO is an attorney, a CPA, a HR expert, a janitor?

His job is to "run" the company, not know how to do every single job, big or small.

I think many on here are just anti business.
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