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Old 01-17-2011, 08:57 AM
 
Location: North America
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I would think that if you are starting a business, the "weak union" states would be the best bet for your future success.

I am not anti-union but the auto bailouts should have been tied to a voluntary dissolution of the UAW.
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Old 01-17-2011, 03:20 PM
 
Location: Columbus
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I would think that if you are starting a business, the "weak union" states would be the best bet for your future success.

I am not anti-union but the auto bailouts should have been tied to a voluntary dissolution of the UAW.
They should let union people have a vote to see if they still want a union. Why should someone be forced to join a union because people in 1920 wanted one?

And if the unions are doing what they claim they have no reason to worry about a vote.
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Old 01-17-2011, 04:21 PM
 
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I would think that if you are starting a business, the "weak union" states would be the best bet for your future success.

I am not anti-union but the auto bailouts should have been tied to a voluntary dissolution of the UAW.
Any law prohibiting union organizing would run afoul of the NLRA. However states can pass right-to-work laws, meaning that it is unlawful for an employer to require a person to join a union in order to get a job.
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Old 01-17-2011, 04:26 PM
 
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They should let union people have a vote to see if they still want a union. Why should someone be forced to join a union because people in 1920 wanted one?

And if the unions are doing what they claim they have no reason to worry about a vote.
They do--it's called a decertification vote.
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Old 01-17-2011, 04:45 PM
 
Location: Del Rio, TN
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Any law prohibiting union organizing would run afoul of the NLRA. However states can pass right-to-work laws, meaning that it is unlawful for an employer to require a person to join a union in order to get a job.

And that is the way it should be. I'm not sure how some states manage to allow "closed shops", where a person is required to join a union in order to work there. The union isn't paying their wages, the company is.
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Old 01-17-2011, 08:21 PM
 
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And that is the way it should be. I'm not sure how some states manage to allow "closed shops", where a person is required to join a union in order to work there. The union isn't paying their wages, the company is.
Ah, maybe because under the NLRA the union is required to represent all employees covered by any labor agreement whether they are members or not that includes paying for representation in mediation and arbitration hearings.
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Old 01-17-2011, 11:10 PM
 
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having many unions in a city will increase unemployment for that city. Unions are about shrinking the work force and taking more than their fair share of the pie. So just look at really poor cities. They will likely have more unions and a higher % of people will be part of a union there. Now look at areas where there isn't as much poverty. Those areas will likely not restrict their work force by unions. So people get paid closer to the real market wage, and the ones that are left unemployed in those areas, are mainly b.c they have been proven to be untrustworthy and/or not hard workers. Since people are employed in those areas and they are making nearer an equilibrium amount, the prices of housing/goods/services in those areas adjust to their wages thus causing less poverty.
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Old 01-17-2011, 11:13 PM
 
Location: Meggett, SC
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Really, this question should be shaped as which states have laws that are pro-union. The states that do not have these union protective laws are the ones that are considered to be "anti-union" simply because they do not specifically pass legislation that helps to further the unions.
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Old 01-17-2011, 11:22 PM
 
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I would think that if you are starting a business, the "weak union" states would be the best bet for your future success.

I am not anti-union but the auto bailouts should have been tied to a voluntary dissolution of the UAW.
I'm anti-union in government because they bribed politicians to put us all in great national debt to pay their massive salaries, benefits and outrageous retirements.

Going by history, IMO unions eventually close down the businesses they are in. They are basically a business cancer. Don't believe me, go by history.
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Old 01-17-2011, 11:25 PM
 
Location: 3rd rock from the sun
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I would think that if you are starting a business, the "weak union" states would be the best bet for your future success.
Depends. What's your business and where is your market?
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