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Old 01-18-2011, 06:29 AM
 
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One last comment--why do you think big business guys and the R party pumped money into tea party campaigns? Your guys are warm bodies sitting in seats to give those people a R majority. Did you really think they were going to go to Washington after that and be able to fight the people who funded you? Your tea party candidates are going to be cutting deals with campaign contributors just like everyone else. It's a twisted, sick system, but it's true. Still against public funding of campaigns? If you had any sense at all you'd be screaming for campaign finance reform.
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Old 01-18-2011, 09:07 AM
 
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FoxNews.com - Tea Party Faces Challenges as GOP Gains Stronger Control

this is what scares me. I have papered a non used wall in my office with this article to remind me of what may happen.....
Keep the faith. The Tea Party candidates are now in office. You can't make changes until you get into office now can you?

Kentucky Politics » Paul, DeMint, Lee form Senate Tea Party Caucus | Kentucky Enquirer | nky.Com

Paul, DeMint, Lee form Senate Tea Party Caucus

"WASHINGTON, D.C. – The Tea Party members of the U.S. Senate announce that they will form and hold the first meeting of the Tea Party Caucus on January 27. Along with various grassroots Tea Party groups, who have played a vitally important role in the movement to put our nation on the right path, Sens. Jim DeMint (S.C.), Mike Lee (Utah), and Rand Paul (Ky.) will gather to discuss spending proposals, options for balancing the budget, bringing an end to our nation’s deficit, and limiting the size and scope of the federal government. Citizens will be invited to speak so we can hear from them and address their concerns about what’s happening in Washington."
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Old 01-18-2011, 09:11 AM
 
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Good article and very true, hopefully everyone will spend a few minutes to read it. It should bring everyone high on the latest win back to earth and to the realization on how Washingtoon really works. It will be an interesting two years, to say the least.
Casper



But, but, but, but.......isn't it YOU that keeps insisting the the Tea Party is the Republican Party????
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Old 01-18-2011, 09:13 AM
 
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One last comment--why do you think big business guys and the R party pumped money into tea party campaigns? Your guys are warm bodies sitting in seats to give those people a R majority. Did you really think they were going to go to Washington after that and be able to fight the people who funded you? Your tea party candidates are going to be cutting deals with campaign contributors just like everyone else. It's a twisted, sick system, but it's true. Still against public funding of campaigns? If you had any sense at all you'd be screaming for campaign finance reform.
Quit voting for them. It's the fault of the people.
Please provide proof about the back room deals Tea Party candidates do? Any proof from previous history will suffice. Always good to expose a crooked politician and vote them out if indeed they are crooked.
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Old 01-18-2011, 09:14 AM
 
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I do hope the tea partiers prevail, so the Dems can win again for sure in the 2012 election.

Yeah....and how did THAT work out for you in the 2010 Midterms???
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Old 01-18-2011, 09:15 AM
 
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Your tea party candidates are going to be cutting deals with campaign contributors just like everyone else.

The Tea Party will hold ALL of their feet to the fire. If you don't perform as promised, you'll get voted out.
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Old 01-18-2011, 09:18 AM
 
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Isn't it kind of cute how when an article comes out from FOX News that Liberals think might be able to be used in their favour, suddenly it isn't "Faux News" anymore?
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Old 01-18-2011, 11:11 AM
 
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Isn't it kind of cute how when an article comes out from FOX News that Liberals think might be able to be used in their favour, suddenly it isn't "Faux News" anymore?
Well...if you look at the history of my posts on this board, this is pretty much what I've been saying since before the election, and Fox just caught up (although they knew this would be the case as much as anyone). For the record--I'm not a liberal.
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Old 01-18-2011, 11:24 AM
 
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I wasn't singling you out. That was a mere observation.
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Old 01-18-2011, 11:54 AM
 
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Quit voting for them. It's the fault of the people.
Please provide proof about the back room deals Tea Party candidates do? Any proof from previous history will suffice. Always good to expose a crooked politician and vote them out if indeed they are crooked.
You don't get it. The speaker of the house is elected, so the party in majority controls who gets committee chairs and assignments, the flow of legislation, etc. through the speaker--it's a position of huge power. In turn, committee chairs control the flow of bills through their committee. Those positions are awarded to senior members, and are highly partisan positions--the speaker appoints loyal, long term members of his/her own party. The republicans pumped millions of dollars into tea party campaigns to make sure they could take back control of the house to push through a republican speaker and agenda. (They won't be able to push them through the Senate and Pres, because of democratic party control there, but that's another topic)

Out of 230 republicans in the house, a little over 70 are freshmen. They will not be committee chairs. The chair completely controls the movement of bills through their committee by the calendar--if they don't want something, they let it die a million different ways--by not putting it on the calender, letting it die in a subcommittee, etc. If your tea party guys don't vote the way the chair wants them to vote--guess what. Their bills somehow never make it out of committee. That's why lots of people go to statehouses bright eyed and bushy tailed, thinking they're going to fix things, until they hit a brick wall. A good chunk of the wheeling and dealing happens before a bill ever hits the floor.

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Second--your guys got in on republican money. If they fail to vote the way the republicans want them to vote, what do you think is going to happen to their campaign funds in two years? If the tea party candidates were capable of raising the millions they'd need to win a general election on their own from small contributors, they would have done it last time. Your people have a choice--tow the party line, or they lose their corporate contributors. Tow the party line, or the republicans will run someone against them in the primary that WILL do it. Again--the House only has two year terms, so fundraising is survival. If your guys don't do what they're told, they're out.

The system is corrupt for everyone by it's very nature--not just for the tea party. If you take contributors out of the picture and publicly finance campaigns, then people can run on their merits vs. who can drag in the most cash by appeasing the people with the biggest pocket books. Get the picture now?
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