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Old 01-18-2011, 04:52 PM
 
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So what if it is? It's not a law it's a contract.
A contract for the patient. Has it ever occured to you that the doctor also has a contract with the same insurance company? Read that..... if you can, its not the same. That insurance company sits squarely between the doctor and the patient and has no moral business being there. Now the complaint about this bill is the Fed is replacing the elephant in the middle. That's BS, it is the health insurance industry still sitting in the middle raking in the profits. Why do you think their stock is rising?
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Old 01-18-2011, 04:54 PM
 
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A contract for the patient. Has it ever occured to you that the doctor also has a contract with the same insurance company? Read that..... if you can, its not the same. That insurance company sits squarely between the doctor and the patient and has no moral business being there. Now the complaint about this bill is the Fed is replacing the elephant in the middle. That's BS, it is the health insurance industry still sitting in the middle raking in the profits. Why do you think their stock is rising?
Okay, the government has no moral business being there either.
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Old 01-18-2011, 04:56 PM
 
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Okay, the government has no moral business being there either.
We agree.
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Old 01-18-2011, 05:05 PM
 
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Question for those who do not think we should help one another or who don't believe that bad things sometimes happen to good people......Are you all OK with people in our country dying because they can no longer afford health care?

We're all going to die because NO ONE will be able to afford it. And 60% of our paychecks are going to be taxed like they are in Europe.
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Old 01-18-2011, 05:07 PM
 
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For example? When did that go into effect? What was the extent of its impact?

If you want to be taken seriously, make logical points, not spew empty anti-liberal rhetoric.
Google "Adultbasic". That's an example.
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Old 01-18-2011, 05:12 PM
 
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Yes. I like the part that lets my adult children can stay on their dad health insurance policy for a little while longer.
7 years is more than a little while...it's teaching people to leech onto their parent's and the government's teet and gives them no reason to grow up. I struggled, and struggled hard when I was younger and it has made me work harder, study harder and grow up. Without these struggles I would have just been another bratty panty waste...which I'm afraid is happening all too often now.
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Old 01-18-2011, 05:17 PM
 
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From an out of country perspective it seems like no one likes this effort from Obama to give every one affordable health care,i presume it has some flaws but for 40 million uninsured Americans isnt it better than nothing?.

No. To beat a dead horse, they already have health care if they want it.
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Old 01-18-2011, 05:23 PM
 
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Obamacare is a pretty terrible solution to our problem. The only worse thing is the problem. Which is why I can't understand the march to repeal. Literally the only thing that sucked more was the status quo. It'd be much better to propose improvements to Obamacare instead of repeal.
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Old 01-18-2011, 05:30 PM
 
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Obamacare is a pretty terrible solution to our problem. The only worse thing is the problem. Which is why I can't understand the march to repeal. Literally the only thing that sucked more was the status quo. It'd be much better to propose improvements to Obamacare instead of repeal.
Making our problem worse doesn't seem like a sound solution.
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Old 01-18-2011, 06:36 PM
 
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I do!!! I am soo glad I don't have to worry about my mom insurance being dropped because of her diabetess!!
My wife has diabetes, and so does her dad.....takes 4-5 shot of insulin daily...70ish years old and doing great!!!

Both have insurance today...and have had insurance for a long time...

I pay...$250 a month for my wife, son and me.....I have yet to pay a co-pay....

Not sure what her dad pays....but he did just go to Vanderbilt (for his diabetes)....and did not pay one penny.....
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