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It is censorship when one asks another to not speak what is on their mind.
And no matter how hard you try and how much you want to argue you will not change the fact that it was tasteless and tacky to treat a memorial as a pep rally. But that is what is expected in a college, liberal environment, the environment where everything is ok and acceptable.
Once again, I must disagree that it was tasteless and tacky. I think even Miss Manners would say to do what felt right. They were acknowldedgin some people who did some good things, as well as memorializing those who died, and wishing Gabrielle Giffords a speedy recovery.
Interesting statement that most were not aware of:
— the event was never billed specifically as a memorial event but rather “Together We Thrive: Tucson and America” —
So now we have the source of the confusion, it was a political event and the public thought it was a memorial service for the dead and wounded. Rather takes us back to "Never let a good crisis go to waste".
Interesting statement that most were not aware of:
— the event was never billed specifically as a memorial event but rather “Together We Thrive: Tucson and America” —
So now we have the source of the confusion, it was a political event and the public thought it was a memorial service for the dead and wounded. Rather takes us back to "Never let a good crisis go to waste".
Nice job of cherry picking one sentence out of an article to twist out of context to suit your own agenda. I doubt you'll find even one person in all of Tucson who thought they were at a political event.
It was tasteless and tacky....and this silence that are now touting is the same thing as censorship and THAT is wrong. Tnat pep rally that we all saw was out of place and wrong and a large part of what is wrong in this country is that people want to embrace everyone and everything and not offend or hurt. Not everything is ok and not everything is acceptable.
Dramatic much? "touting silence" is absolutely NOT censorship. Censorship is an authority which FORCES your silence; not someone suggesting you might want to rethink your position.
As for what's wrong with this country is that "people want to embrace everyone and everything and not offend or hurt".......actually, that sounds like a very worthy goal. The duality of rigid "right" and "wrong" is often the source of enormous pain.....especially in situations like the memorial service.
No it isn't the same thing as censorship. EmeraldMaiden is talking about having the common sense, good taste and proper manners to not criticize the way a community chose to begin their healing process. As I said in an earlier post: The community planned and got a much needed celebration of life, unity and hope and of honoring those who were killed and injured and the heroes of that awful day. Their community. Their pain. Their right to decide what is appropriate and what isn't.
You're right about one thing, though: "Not everything is okay" and your attitude regarding the Tucson memorial is a perfect case in point.
Thank you, that is exactly what I am talking about. You don't tell a grieving person what a creep their lost loved one was, even if it's true. You don't criticize the choice of flowers at a funeral or a wedding - at least not to the people involved in it.
I, for one, am tired of watching people in this thread deliberately trying to make Tucson's rally something it was not, and trying to make those of us who found it healing feel as though we've done something wrong. We haven't.
Nice job of cherry picking one sentence out of an article to twist out of context to suit your own agenda. I doubt you'll find even one person in all of Tucson who thought they were at a political event.
So correct. "cherry picking...twist out of context"
Dramatic much? "touting silence" is absolutely NOT censorship. Censorship is an authority which FORCES your silence; not someone suggesting you might want to rethink your position.
As for what's wrong with this country is that "people want to embrace everyone and everything and not offend or hurt".......actually, that sounds like a very worthy goal. The duality of rigid "right" and "wrong" is often the source of enormous pain.....especially in situations like the memorial service.
Not dramatic, just not interested in the everything is ok and acceptable. And no it is not a worthy and to suggest such is such a diservice to society. What we saw was not a memorial service it was political grandstanding at its worst.
Not dramatic, just not interested in the everything is ok and acceptable. And no it is not a worthy and to suggest such is such a diservice to society. What we saw was not a memorial service it was political grandstanding at its worst.
And, of course, you're welcome to your OPINION however unpopular it may be.
Actully, I can make just as "difinitive" a statement as the way you expressed your opinion, yet it still remains my opinion: The memorial service we saw was unique and not only very appropriate to the occasion but emotionally satisfying and enormously healing. Great tribute to the heroes as well as those who lost their lives. We celebrate the lives of those who were lost and applaud the survivors.
And, of course, you're welcome to your OPINION however unpopular it may be.
Actully, I can make just as "difinitive" a statement as the way you expressed your opinion, yet it still remains my opinion: The memorial service we saw was unique and not only very appropriate to the occasion but emotionally satisfying and enormously healing. Great tribute to the heroes as well as those who lost their lives. We celebrate the lives of those who were lost and applaud the survivors.
And there was no "political pep rally" at any memorial I saw.
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"touting silence" is absolutely NOT censorship. Censorship is an authority which FORCES your silence; not someone suggesting you might want to rethink your position.
So correct. "cherry picking...twist out of context"
