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Old 01-18-2011, 02:31 PM
 
Location: North America
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Should our reps be worried about those things that we as a society take care of on our own (disciplining our kids, what to eat, what to say, where to go, what to buy, how we earn our income, what we smoke and put into our bodies, sexual relationships, etc.)?

Perhaps they should concentrate on laws that protect our rights guaranteed in our Constitution.

Do they even have a mandate to make laws about personal matters?

What gives Congress the right to make such laws?
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Old 01-18-2011, 02:35 PM
 
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They gave themselves the right to legislate morality and lifestyles. They have to look like they are doing something because they have proven over and over again that they can't legislate what they are supposed to. OUR RIGHTS GUARANTEED IN THE CONSTITUTION!
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Old 01-18-2011, 04:02 PM
 
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"Do You Believe Congress Should Make Laws To "Protect Us" as Opposed to Laws that Protect our Rights?"

I think the Congress is fully capable of multi-tasking.
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Old 01-18-2011, 04:08 PM
 
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NO!

We don't need protection from government. If we voluntarily do something stupid, it's on us, not the government.

Protect our rights, not us.
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Old 01-18-2011, 04:09 PM
 
Location: Littleton, CO
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It's hardly an either / or thing.
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Old 09-10-2015, 10:25 AM
 
Location: Oceania
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This is the powers of Congress, per the Constitution.

Article 1. Section. 8.
The Congress shall have Power To lay and collect Taxes, Duties, Imposts and Excises, to pay the Debts and provide for the common Defence and general Welfare of the United States; but all Duties, Imposts and Excises shall be uniform throughout the United States;
To borrow Money on the credit of the United States;
To regulate Commerce with foreign Nations, and among the several States, and with the Indian Tribes;
To establish an uniform Rule of Naturalization, and uniform Laws on the subject of Bankruptcies throughout the United States;
To coin Money, regulate the Value thereof, and of foreign Coin, and fix the Standard of Weights and Measures;
To provide for the Punishment of counterfeiting the Securities and current Coin of the United States;
To establish Post Offices and post Roads;
To promote the Progress of Science and useful Arts, by securing for limited Times to Authors and Inventors the exclusive Right to their respective Writings and Discoveries;
To constitute Tribunals inferior to the supreme Court;
To define and punish Piracies and Felonies committed on the high Seas, and Offences against the Law of Nations;
To declare War, grant Letters of Marque and Reprisal, and make Rules concerning Captures on Land and Water;
To raise and support Armies, but no Appropriation of Money to that Use shall be for a longer Term than two Years;
To provide and maintain a Navy;
To make Rules for the Government and Regulation of the land and naval Forces;
To provide for calling forth the Militia to execute the Laws of the Union, suppress Insurrections and repel Invasions;
To provide for organizing, arming, and disciplining, the Militia, and for governing such Part of them as may be employed in the Service of the United States, reserving to the States respectively, the Appointment of the Officers, and the Authority of training the Militia according to the discipline prescribed by Congress;
To exercise exclusive Legislation in all Cases whatsoever, over such District (not exceeding ten Miles square) as may, by Cession of particular States, and the Acceptance of Congress, become the Seat of the Government of the United States, and to exercise like Authority over all Places purchased by the Consent of the Legislature of the State in which the Same shall be, for the Erection of Forts, Magazines, Arsenals, dock-Yards, and other needful Buildings;—And
To make all Laws which shall be necessary and proper for carrying into Execution the foregoing Powers, and all other Powers vested by this Constitution in the Government of the United States, or in any Department or Officer thereof.
Section. 9.
The Migration or Importation of such Persons as any of the States now existing shall think proper to admit, shall not be prohibited by the Congress prior to the Year one thousand eight hundred and eight, but a Tax or duty may be imposed on such Importation, not exceeding ten dollars for each Person.
The Privilege of the Writ of Habeas Corpus shall not be suspended, unless when in Cases of Rebellion or Invasion the public Safety may require it.
No Bill of Attainder or ex post facto Law shall be passed.
No Capitation, or other direct, Tax shall be laid, unless in Proportion to the Census or enumeration herein before directed to be taken.
No Tax or Duty shall be laid on Articles exported from any State.
No Preference shall be given by any Regulation of Commerce or Revenue to the Ports of one State over those of another: nor shall Vessels bound to, or from, one State, be obliged to enter, clear, or pay Duties in another.
No Money shall be drawn from the Treasury, but in Consequence of Appropriations made by Law; and a regular Statement and Account of the Receipts and Expenditures of all public Money shall be published from time to time.
No Title of Nobility shall be granted by the United States: And no Person holding any Office of Profit or Trust under them, shall, without the Consent of the Congress, accept of any present, Emolument, Office, or Title, of any kind whatever, from any King, Prince, or foreign State.


There is more in Article 1 but this covers the jist of their powers.
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Old 09-10-2015, 10:27 AM
 
Location: california
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When you commission some one else to take care of your security you will loose you freedom.
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Old 09-10-2015, 10:30 AM
 
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Haven't seen a good "begging the question" fallacy in a long time - thanks!
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Old 09-10-2015, 11:44 AM
 
Location: Gulf Coast Texas
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NO!

We don't need protection from government. If we voluntarily do something stupid, it's on us, not the government.

Protect our rights, not us.
We don't need protection from government... we need protection from government.
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Old 09-10-2015, 12:13 PM
 
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personally I think congress should eliminate 2 laws for every 1 they pass.

I think they should spend more time passing laws that restrict government than laws that restrict the people.


I really really really think that Congress has abdicated its duty in handing over control of America to nameless faceless bureaucrats who make regulations that control all manner of things that congress never touches...yet people go to jail over REGULATIONS that have never been voted on.

its disgusting and un-American and all 535 members of congress should be impeached for it.
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