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Yes, separation of church and state should be rigidly maintained, in spite of what some of my brothers think. If my Evangelical Republican friends ever get their way and impose a so-called Christian government on the rest of the nation, just stand aside and watch as they fight over whose brand of Christianity gets to run the place. That oughta be interesting!
However, that doesn't mean all public officials or candidates should hide their faith in the interest of unity, nor that they should be precluded from serving because their faith will inform their decisions. That would be going too far the other way. While the Constitution specifically forbids a religious test for office, it seems logical to me that we would no more want a lack of religion as a test for office.
In the end, it simply boils down to good manners and tolerance, both of which seem to be in short supply these days on both sides of the aisle.
And, I did try to look it up but can't find it, at least not yet.
Link at OP. Here's another: Governor: Only Christians are my brothers - War Room - Salon.com ''But if you have been adopted in God's family like I have, and like you have if you're a Christian and if you're saved, and the Holy Spirit lives within you just like the Holy Spirit lives within me, then you know what that makes? It makes you and me brothers. And it makes you and me brother and sister."
Bentley added, ''Now I will have to say that, if we don't have the same daddy, we're not brothers and sisters. So anybody here today who has not accepted Jesus Christ as their savior, I'm telling you, you're not my brother and you're not my sister, and I want to be your brother."
Do you really see people from the left coming up with this religious drivel?
I don't agree with him. I don't think he should have that outlook and be in public office. I'm glad he spoke honestly about how he feels about certain people. Now those people know that they are cast aside by their government. They deserve to know. We need more politicians to tell the truth.
Link at OP. Here's another: Governor: Only Christians are my brothers - War Room - Salon.com ''But if you have been adopted in God's family like I have, and like you have if you're a Christian and if you're saved, and the Holy Spirit lives within you just like the Holy Spirit lives within me, then you know what that makes? It makes you and me brothers. And it makes you and me brother and sister."
Bentley added, ''Now I will have to say that, if we don't have the same daddy, we're not brothers and sisters. So anybody here today who has not accepted Jesus Christ as their savior, I'm telling you, you're not my brother and you're not my sister, and I want to be your brother."
Do you really see people from the left coming up with this religious drivel?
First of all, I categorically reject the notion that a person's faith is defined by his politics. Faith in Jesus Christ means just that...faith in Jesus Christ, and whatever party or ideology one subscribes to has nothing at all to do with that. Frankly, I'm sick of those who suppose that a "good" Christian can't possibly be "leftist," or that a leftist is a "bad" Christian, or that a "conservative" is a proper Christian. Jesus doesn't belong to any political party, and when someone tries to draft Him into theirs, they'll meet me in opposition.
You may cling to such false notions if you wish, but don't expect me to validate them for you by arguing the point.
Secondly, and based upon my first comment, the Governor's remarks isn't a left/right, either/or, Christian/heathern issue. He can legitimately be taken to task for the intemperance of his comments (if that's what he actually meant to say in context), but don't make any more of it than that.
To treat it as anything more than the comments of one man, without any evidence that such feelings dictate his official actions as Governor, does nothing but feed the divide and hate. You should be ashamed of yourself for trying to do that.
There should be no religion in government. If he gave this speech as part of his official duties as governor, he should have kept Jesus out of it. If he keeps this up, the good people of Alabama should initiate a recall action.
Nah.
He can SAY whatever he likes, however stupid and inappropriate.
But as soon as he tries to inject religion into an executive order or policy, he's going to get thumped by the courts.
First of all, I categorically reject the notion that a person's faith is defined by his politics. Faith in Jesus Christ means just that...faith in Jesus Christ, and whatever party or ideology one subscribes to has nothing at all to do with that. Frankly, I'm sick of those who suppose that a "good" Christian can't possibly be "leftist," or that a leftist is a "bad" Christian, or that a "conservative" is a proper Christian. Jesus doesn't belong to any political party, and when someone tries to draft Him into theirs, they'll meet me in opposition.
You may cling to such false notions if you wish, but don't expect me to validate them for you by arguing the point.
Secondly, and based upon my first comment, the Governor's remarks isn't a left/right, either/or, Christian/heathern issue. He can legitimately be taken to task for the intemperance of his comments (if that's what he actually meant to say in context), but don't make any more of it than that.
To treat it as anything more than the comments of one man, without any evidence that such feelings dictate his official actions as Governor, does nothing but feed the divide and hate. You should be ashamed of yourself for trying to do that.
My statement was that I've never heard a democrat/liberal make speeches like the one that this moron made.
He's divisive.
Can you direct me to some links where those on the other side of the political spectrum have made such boneheaded comments?
I'm not ashamed at all, I asked a question... you didn't answer, but went off on a tangent.
So long as he treats all the people of his state legally equal there is no problem with his being openly Christian. If he equates being Christian with citizenship I think all non Christians in Alabama will soo be having difficult times.
My statement was that I've never heard a democrat/liberal make speeches like the one that this moron made.
He's divisive.
Can you direct me to some links where those on the other side of the political spectrum have made such boneheaded comments?
I'm not ashamed at all, I asked a question... you didn't answer, but went off on a tangent.
And, I'm not going to answer it because the underlying assumption is that there must not be very many ardent Christian's on the left or in the Democratic Party, that it's only those trogolodyte Republican Christian's who would dare have any measure of faith at all, let along speak about it. That's a falsehood I won't dignify by responding to.
You can do your own research to valid your prejudices and misperceptions.
And, I'm not going to answer it because the underlying assumption is that there must not be very many ardent Christian's on the left or in the Democratic Party, that it's only those trogolodyte Republican Christian's who would dare have any measure of faith at all, let along speak about it. That's a falsehood I won't dignify by responding to.
You can do your own research to valid your prejudices and misperceptions.
Tried, couldn't find any self-asserted Dems/liberals making such absurd statements. However, I did find many on the self-professed "conservative" side.
"Speaking on Martin Luther King Jr. Day in the very church where Dr. King once pastored, new Alabama Gov. Robert Bentley gave a speech in which he said that those who have not accepted Jesus Christ as their savior are not his 'brothers.'"
"'Now I will have to say that, if we don't have the same daddy, we're not brothers and sisters,' he said. 'So anybody here today who has not accepted Jesus Christ as their savior, I'm telling you, you're not my brother and you're not my sister'"
"Speaking on Martin Luther King Jr. Day in the very church where Dr. King once pastored, new Alabama Gov. Robert Bentley gave a speech in which he said that those who have not accepted Jesus Christ as their savior are not his 'brothers.'"
"'Now I will have to say that, if we don't have the same daddy, we're not brothers and sisters,' he said. 'So anybody here today who has not accepted Jesus Christ as their savior, I'm telling you, you're not my brother and you're not my sister'"
What a great message to the non-Christians who live in Alabama.
He's right. 2 people with different parents are not brothers and sisters. Why exactly does that upset you?
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