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It seems that the people who are anti-abortion focus their attention very narrowly on the fetus in these situations, and even more narrowly on the life of that fetus. Which is not a bad thing, because it reflects their ideology. But ideology and reality often are in conflict. People who are pro-choice may too often focus on the women's issues, which reflects their ideology. I think most people in the United States are more moderate in their views on abortion. No one likes abortion, but it is reasonable to acknowledge that there are cases when abortion does less harm to the woman than any other choice. And it's important that people approach this issue WITH RESPECT. The women who choose abortion do MERIT the RESPECT of us all. Whether you agree with their choices or not, when you bring contempt to the discussion you are showing that your mind is closed, not open. Every situation is different, and in order to understand the situation that each woman faces, you have to be willing to listen, willing to see her point of view. If you aren't willing, what does that say about you?
killing a "fetus" while the head is still in the birth canal, (as in a partial birth abortion) or ten seconds after the "baby" is born?
This statement is both ignorant and heartless. These procedures are extremely rare, and are only LEGALLY done to save the life of the mother. In these cases, the women DO NOT WANT an abortion......they are forced to have an abortion or die, perhaps leaving their other children motherless.
when is the last time that there has been a serious discussion about the emotional, mental and physical effects on a woman after an abortion?
This has been discussed. Very few women have emotional problems after an abortion. Physical problems from LEGAL abortions are virtually nil. A doctor can do a complete physical exam on a woman and will not know whether she has previously had an abortion unless she tells him.
when is the last time that mortality rates of women during or after an abortion were discussed?
Death due to a legal abortion is EXTREMELY RARE. Legal abortion is one of the safest medical procedures done. FACT: More woman die during childbirth than from legal abortion.
I think it's time that we have an adult discussion about these things and stop being so cavalier about "woman's rights" when,in fact, an unborn child has none.
Unborn children are not aborted on demand. Fetuses that are not viable are aborted on demand.
Stating emotional fallacies as fact is childish and cavalier. It is impossible to have an adult discussion when you are ignorant of the FACTS.
Shouldn't have been around at all if the promises pro-abortion folks had made were kept. Namely, that we needed to legalize abortion to get rid of places like this.
It would also appear this place has been in existence for awhile. Where were all the women's health advocates? Now we know they don't care if abortionists kill babies but this guy killed a woman as well. Isn't that another thing Roe v Wade was supposed to stop? Deaths of women from abortions?
This statute prohibits a method of abortion in the United States that it names "partial birth abortion". The procedure described in the statute is usually used in the second trimester,[3] from 15 to 26 weeks, some of which occur before and some of which occur after viability. The law itself contains no reference to gestational age or viability. The present statute is directed only at a method of abortion, rather than at preventing any woman from obtaining an abortion
In the 2000 Supreme Court case of Stenberg v. Carhart, a Nebraska law banning "partial-birth abortion" was ruled unconstitutional, in part because the language defining "partial-birth abortion" was deemed vague.[8] In 2006, the Supreme Court in Gonzales v. Carhart found that the 2003 act "departs in material ways" from the Nebraska law and that it pertains only to a specific abortion procedure, intact dilation and extraction.[2] Some commentators
This statute prohibits a method of abortion in the United States that it names "partial birth abortion". The procedure described in the statute is usually used in the second trimester,[3] from 15 to 26 weeks, some of which occur before and some of which occur after viability. The law itself contains no reference to gestational age or viability. The present statute is directed only at a method of abortion, rather than at preventing any woman from obtaining an abortion
In the 2000 Supreme Court case of Stenberg v. Carhart, a Nebraska law banning "partial-birth abortion" was ruled unconstitutional, in part because the language defining "partial-birth abortion" was deemed vague.[8] In 2006, the Supreme Court in Gonzales v. Carhart found that the 2003 act "departs in material ways" from the Nebraska law and that it pertains only to a specific abortion procedure, intact dilation and extraction.[2] Some commentators
My mistake on the viability part.
Although further research shows some suprising trends.
Such as the amount of abortions going down, and that most abortions are done before the general point of viability.
The correlation is that the government pays for the abortions that are done.
If the USA restricts abortion to the first 12 weeks, would you be agreeable to the government paying for abortions?
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At present, the federal Medicaid program mandates abortion funding in cases of rape or incest, as well as when a pregnant woman's life is endangered by a physical disorder, illness, or injury.
Any other reason for abortion makes it elective surgery.
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