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Old 01-20-2011, 07:45 AM
 
Location: Fort Worth, Texas
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Who really gives a ****?

 
Old 01-20-2011, 09:19 AM
 
Location: Underneath the Pecan Tree
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Bush seems cool and he's a conservative. Good sense of humor.
 
Old 01-20-2011, 09:20 AM
 
Location: The City
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It is not considered hip to you. The polarization in this country is shameful, and this thread is an example of that.

Good point
 
Old 01-20-2011, 09:25 AM
 
Location: Toronto
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Almost by definition progressive can't mean conservative. It could mean libertarian, but that's not the same.
What's the "technical" definition of progressive?
 
Old 01-20-2011, 10:14 AM
 
Location: Brooklyn, New York
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What's the "technical" definition of progressive?
Progressivism is a political attitude favoring or advocating changes or reform through governmental action.

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American progressives tend to support international economics: they advocate progressive taxation and oppose the growing influence of corporations. Progressives are in agreement on an international scale with left-liberalism in that they support organized labor and trade unions, they usually wish to introduce a living wage, and they often support the creation of a universal health care system. Yet progressives tend to be more concerned with environmentalism than mainstream liberals. In the United States, liberals and progressives are often conflated, and in general are the primary voters of the Democratic Party which has a "large tent" policy, combining similar if not congruent ideologies into large voting blocs. Many progressives also support the Green Party or local parties such as the Vermont Progressive Party.
 
Old 01-20-2011, 10:24 AM
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Location: Queens, NY
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the answer is no.
for the sake of a counter argument, name a "cool" conservative city.
 
Old 01-20-2011, 10:26 AM
 
Location: Toronto
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Progressivism is a political attitude favoring or advocating changes or reform through governmental action.

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Ah, thanks. I've always thought of progressive as another name for socially liberal for some reason so I wasn't sure if I got the connotations right. I didn't know it implied government action.
 
Old 01-20-2011, 10:29 AM
 
Location: Toronto
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I know, but in general, even outside of politics, having a conservative view on a particular subject is never considered cool or hip.
Isn't the very original definition of conservative, tight, cautious, traditional or sticking to tried norms, while liberal meant more loose, free, idealistic and radical.

If you stick to thinking about those ideas, you could see how it could make sense.
 
Old 01-20-2011, 10:30 AM
 
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Since it's MTV and the liberal media who define what's cool and what's not, no conservative city would ever meet the criteria for being considered cool. In other words, because youth media is big on gay rights, an indie/alternative music scene, generally easy-going social values, etc., then how would a conservative city ever meet the standard?

But at the end of the day, outside of the kitschy-cool cities like Seattle, San Francisco, and New York, the vast majority of people are far more concerned with making a living, providing a good, safe, quality, upbringing for their kids, and making sure that their family has a good life. So more conservative cities like Boise, Denver, Kansas City, etc. won't be "cool," but they'll almost always be more livable, affordable, and all-around better to live in.
 
Old 01-20-2011, 10:31 AM
 
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I think what is considered as "hip and cool" really depends on the population that lives there and their culture.

I went to Colorado Springs once, where it is considered a very conservative city in Colorado. I went to the World Prayer Center there, and to them they considered it "cool" and I was young at that time, and many teenagers and young college students went there too. So young people thought that church is cool. Maybe if the World Prayer Center were in San Fransico it wouldn't be considered as cool, but the kids who went to the World Prayer Center thought it was hip and cool to go there. I bet they considered it the "in" thing to do to go to church and worship the Christian God.

So yes I think conservative cities can be as "cool" as their liberal counterparts but the way they are cool is different than a liberal's version of cool.
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