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If you think not, honestly consider this: Would you still object to the health care reform act had it been passed by a Republican Congress and signed by George Bush?
It would not have forced down our throats....
There would have been no discussion about the "necular" option to get it passed...
Tell me why, if it was so good...they were discussing that option....
Also if it was such a great piece of legislation....I wonder why NO dem ran on it in this recent election.....
I mean lets be honest....the most important piece of legislation in this country just passed and not a dem used that for the election......
what was it about Obama that caused the losses the dems took
Have you not received any of the thousands of e-mails suggesting that Obama is unqualified for the Presidency, not a citizen, evil incarnate? Were you not exposed to the thousands of half-truths, inuendos and outright lies told about the man? The campaign to de-legitimize Obama began before he even won the election and has continued ever since.
Do you think there was nothing behind that? Or, that all that flood of mis-information and dis-information just happened to appear out of thin air? Do you even know where all that stuff originated and by whom?
I finally got tired of finding my in-box full of that stuff and begn tracking where they came from. Fully 1/4 of them came via a proxy server in Scottsdale, AZ which does not reveal their clients(a very heavily wealthy and Republican area). Not surprisingly, that same server carries the website of a number of radical, anti-Obama, pro-Republican extremist's, many of whom have close business, personal and interest ties to the mainstream GOP.
Come on! Get real! There was, and is, a deliberate, orchestrated campaign to paint the President as a tool of evil conspiracies (see: Glenn Beck) and a dangerous non-citizen who has insinuated himself into the highest office of the land for no other purpose than to destroy America.
Moreover, judging by the responses I got from my right wing friends when I sent back the truth of their forwarded lies, it's tapped a latent, un-admitted, deep-seated racism. I can't tell you how many of my friends who have responded with something like, "I'll NEVER support that black SOB," or, more commonly, have referred to the President of the United States as, "That Ni---r in the White House."
The point is, those impressions of Obama were the foundation of the GOP's entire campaign strategy.
Really? Read by whom? Members of Congress or yourself and other voters?
May I remind you that the Patriot Act, passed by a GOP Congress and signed by a GOP President, was just as long and was passed using the same parliamentary procedures.
Did YOU read IT? Did your Congressperson?
Was it passed Bi-partisan or did only republication vote for it?
Was it passed Bi-partisan or did only republication vote for it?
That's not the issue. What's important is that it was passed using a "hurry up" procedure, in the dead of night, and without sufficient time to see what was in it.
Neither the GOP, nor the Democrats, can be faulted for passing such a thing in the heat of the aftermath of 9/11. I probably would have voted to pass it myself, as would you. The fault lies with both parties for re-authorizing the damn thing without enough corrections to it's now obvious excesses.
I finally got tired of finding my in-box full of that stuff and begn tracking where they came from. Fully 1/4 of them came via a proxy server in Scottsdale, AZ which does not reveal their clients(a very heavily wealthy and Republican area). Not surprisingly, that same server carries the website of a number of radical, anti-Obama, pro-Republican extremist's, many of whom have close business, personal and interest ties to the mainstream GOP.
So you have a server..that cannot be identified....but is somewhere in AZ, and is completely republican extremist, and has direct ties to the mainstream GOP......business and personnal interest's.......
And you found everything you say on this server......
I hope you can provide a link to that...those are some pretty big accusations
Have you not received any of the thousands of e-mails suggesting that Obama is unqualified for the Presidency, not a citizen, evil incarnate? Were you not exposed to the thousands of half-truths, inuendos and outright lies told about the man? The campaign to de-legitimize Obama began before he even won the election and has continued ever since.
Do you think there was nothing behind that? Or, that all that flood of mis-information and dis-information just happened to appear out of thin air? Do you even know where all that stuff originated and by whom?
I finally got tired of finding my in-box full of that stuff and begn tracking where they came from. Fully 1/4 of them came via a proxy server in Scottsdale, AZ which does not reveal their clients(a very heavily wealthy and Republican area). Not surprisingly, that same server carries the website of a number of radical, anti-Obama, pro-Republican extremist's, many of whom have close business, personal and interest ties to the mainstream GOP.
Come on! Get real! There was, and is, a deliberate, orchestrated campaign to paint the President as a tool of evil conspiracies (see: Glenn Beck) and a dangerous non-citizen who has insinuated himself into the highest office of the land for no other purpose than to destroy America.
Moreover, judging by the responses I got from my right wing friends when I sent back the truth of their forwarded lies, it's tapped a latent, un-admitted, deep-seated racism. I can't tell you how many of my friends who have responded with something like, "I'll NEVER support that black SOB," or, more commonly, have referred to the President of the United States as, "That Ni---r in the White House."
The point is, those impressions of Obama were the foundation of the GOP's entire campaign strategy.
So the Dem's lost 65 seats in the house because of emails..
So those local races where voters new the people best were lost because of anti obama emails.
that is a really interesting perspective and explains much about your thinking
Really? Read by whom? Members of Congress or yourself and other voters?
May I remind you that the Patriot Act, passed by a GOP Congress and signed by a GOP President, was just as long and was passed using the same parliamentary procedures.
Did YOU read IT? Did your Congressperson?
Actually, the USAPATRIOT Act was enacted into law by a Republican controlled House and Democrat controlled Senate in October 2001. In fact, it was Senator Daschle (D) who introduced the USAPATRIOT Act in the Senate under S. 1510 in the 107th Session of Congress.
Nice try to spin reality, but your lies have been exposed.
Actually, the USAPATRIOT Act was enacted into law by a Republican controlled House and Democrat controlled Senate in October 2001. In fact, it was Senator Daschle (D) who introduced the USAPATRIOT Act in the Senate under S. 1510 in the 107th Session of Congress.
Nice try to spin reality, but your lies have been exposed.
So you have a server..that cannot be identified....but is somewhere in AZ, and is completely republican extremist, and has direct ties to the mainstream GOP......business and personnal interest's.......
And you found everything you say on this server......
I hope you can provide a link to that...those are some pretty big accusations
Yes, the server can be identified. It's their clients who can't. That's one the reasons to use a proxy server.
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