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Oops. Guess I shouldn't have participated in the poll, since I didn't vote for him because he's black... I'm stupid apparently, because I actually choose a president based on their inner qualities and beliefs.
The interesting thing to me is that technically I don't consider Obama black.
Wasn't he raised by white grandparents? I know his mother was white. So he obviously had a lot of influence by his whte family and it seems his father deserted him. So really it seeems like he had little black influence. So in my mind he is not truly a "black president" as say, Alan Keyes would have been if he would have won the republican ticket.
LMAO!
Funny how a man can't even be black even when he says he is.
That is of course, unless he does something bad or illegal...then he can't be black enough.
Neither do i, and the people who claim to know people who did are full of it.
In any case, Obama is met my expectations. Can't say that he exceeded them because i didn't expect too much to begin with.
That's a rather narrow view of the world. Actually had arguments with people that TOLD me they were voting for Obama only due to his being black. My argument, by the way, was not that they not vote for him but rather they vote based on policies and not skin color. For those that did vote for him based upon policy, fine, even if I disagree but to vote for someone just because that person is black, a woman, a Christian, or whatever is just plain silly.
That's a rather narrow view of the world. Actually had arguments with people that TOLD me they were voting for Obama only due to his being black. My argument, by the way, was not that they not vote for him but rather they vote based on policies and not skin color. For those that did vote for him based upon policy, fine, even if I disagree but to vote for someone just because that person is black, a woman, a Christian, or whatever is just plain silly.
So have you been just as emphatic in past elections with people about not voting for people just for being Christians, white, women, etc?
I mean full blown arguments, like you claim to have had with Obama voters?
So have you been just as emphatic in past elections with people about not voting for people just for being Christians, white, women, etc?
I mean full blown arguments, like you claim to have had with Obama voters?
Actually I have and did when people told me that they were voting for Bush due to his religious views but couldn't tell me a single policy he was advocating. Also, when people told me that they voted for Carter because he was from the South; being from Georgia had what effect upon his policies again? I make my decisions based upon policy. That's really what matters.
Oops. Guess I shouldn't have participated in the poll, since I didn't vote for him because he's black... I'm stupid apparently, because I actually choose a president based on their inner qualities and beliefs.
I'm on other side of the same camp. I didn't vote against him because he's black, but because he doesn't represent the core values, beliefs and philosophies that I want projected from the Oval Office.
Actually I have and did when people told me that they were voting for Bush due to his religious views but couldn't tell me a single policy he was advocating. Also, when people told me that they voted for Carter because he was from the South; being from Georgia had what effect upon his policies again? I make my decisions based upon policy. That's really what matters.
Hmmm....
So why haven't i heard as much hue and cry about those things (you acknowledged that they happened too) as i hear about people voting for Obama because he's black?
Certainly, there are more Christians in America than there are Blacks. If millions voted for Bush because he was a Christian, or southerners for Carter cuz he's from Georgia, where was all the rancor?
That's a rather narrow view of the world. Actually had arguments with people that TOLD me they were voting for Obama only due to his being black. My argument, by the way, was not that they not vote for him but rather they vote based on policies and not skin color. For those that did vote for him based upon policy, fine, even if I disagree but to vote for someone just because that person is black, a woman, a Christian, or whatever is just plain silly.
That just sounds absurd. You're essentially saying that they didn't vote for McCain because he's white.
So why haven't i heard as much hue and cry about those things (you acknowledged that they happened too) as i hear about people voting for Obama because he's black?
Certainly, there are more Christians in America than there are Blacks. If millions voted for Bush because he was a Christian, or southerners for Carter cuz he's from Georgia, where was all the rancor?
Can't speak for everyone else since you asked if I personally had spoken out about this type of demographic voting, and I did so. In addition, you said that you had never met anyone that voted for Obama solely based on his skin color and anyone that says they did meet someone who did so was full of it. Again, I was simply pointing out that there did indeed people who did vote for Obama solely based on his skin color.
I don't suspect you'll find widespread rancor about Bush or Carter as again, that was a more personal anecdotal evidence. I do believe, however, you will find this with a female candidate. Primarily due to being the "first" of something whereas there were other Christians and Southerners that have held the office of President. Nonetheless, just because you have the potential to be "first" in something is not a reason to vote for that person; vote on policies. Even though I would love to see a female President, I would not vote for her just because she were a woman, as I suspect some would. I would vote for the policies. I feel a responsibility as a voter to actually study and think before I visit the ballot box.
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