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Old 01-23-2011, 02:33 PM
 
Location: Sango, TN
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Obamacare is popular only in that it is widely dissaproved of with those not currently on the government teat.

The WSJ article states that those "jobs" are through NEW spending.

Obama to Push New Spending in State of the Union - WSJ.com

So, apparently the OP thinks we should throw more good money after bad stimulus & jobs bills that produced neither.
"While proposing new spending, Mr. Obama also will lay out significant budget cuts elsewhere, people familiar with the plans say, though they will likely fall short of what Republican lawmakers have requested."

From your article.

He's purposing new spending in areas that will cause investment in the country, energy, education, and infrastructure spending.

Mostly good stuff.

If coupled with equal and offsetting spending cuts, I'm ok with it.
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Old 01-23-2011, 04:16 PM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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No, you can't do that. Let me explain.

Government says "Insurance companies can't deny coverage to someone if they have a pre-existing condition."

Ok, fine, sounds great for me. Now I'll wait and sign up for insurance when I get sick so I don't have to pay a monthly premium to have it. The insurance company can't deny me coverage, because the government says so.

So how does the government fix this problem?

Require everyone to have insurance, aka the individual mandate.

You can't make preexisting conditions covered without everyone having insurance, and everyone wants preexisting conditions covered, because if they aren't insurance companies are clear to drop you for whatever reason they'd like.

Healthcare sounds all nice and everything, but like most complicated systems, if you touch one thing, you've got to touch 5 others.


There is nothing that says pre-existing conditions will not have a much higher premium, as it should.
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Old 01-23-2011, 06:44 PM
 
Location: Dallas
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The President and Dems are focusing on jobs, jobs, jobs and spending constraint. The Repubs agenda, Repeal a popular HC Reform. Good plan Repubs, keep at it.

"spending constraint"... now Bob, that's really funny!!!!

The state of the Union is that our Boy Leader is still spending like a drunken sailor. He has not changed his stripes. Even the tax bill he worked out with the Reps included more spending.
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Old 01-24-2011, 01:54 PM
 
Location: Tampa Florida
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Qh oh, the wars begin.

House majority leader says Ryan, not Bachmann speaks for the GOP – CNN Political Ticker - CNN.com Blogs
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Old 01-24-2011, 01:58 PM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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"While proposing new spending, Mr. Obama also will lay out significant budget cuts elsewhere, people familiar with the plans say, though they will likely fall short of what Republican lawmakers have requested."

From your article.



So it is a wash!
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Old 01-24-2011, 02:05 PM
 
Location: Dallas, TX
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Actually, it is true and you don't make it a sucess no matter how many times you repeat the false claim.

You make some pretty grand assumptions about why the approval rating is higher.
Nearly 2/3rd of the first stimulus was towards tax cuts. I didn't think y'all counted that as spending.
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Old 01-24-2011, 02:06 PM
 
Location: Dallas, TX
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"spending constraint"... now Bob, that's really funny!!!!

The state of the Union is that our Boy Leader is still spending like a drunken sailor. He has not changed his stripes. Even the tax bill he worked out with the Reps included more spending.
And you believe that tax bill won't cost the economy a penny and will in fact help cut the deficit as it was supposed to do since... 2001. You keep believing what your whiney-boys keep telling you.
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Old 01-24-2011, 04:16 PM
 
Location: Sango, TN
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So it is a wash!
It depends. If he cuts more then he spends thats fine.

Where he is talking about extra investment is infrastructure, education, and new sources of energy.

All good things.

Republicans want to decrease education spending, which is like eating your seed corn in the winter.

Yeah, you'll have a full belly for the next few weeks, but come next summer you're screwed. Same thing with infrastructure.
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Old 01-28-2011, 11:48 AM
 
Location: Dallas
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And you believe that tax bill won't cost the economy a penny and will in fact help cut the deficit as it was supposed to do since... 2001. You keep believing what your whiney-boys keep telling you.

You must have read some other dude's post. My post was about spending, not about raising or not raising taxes.

And my post is true. Our Boy Leader is spending like a drunken sailor. That's what he does and that's what he likes.... BIG GOVERNMENT !!!!


And who are the "whiney-boys?????"
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Old 01-28-2011, 11:55 AM
 
Location: Chicagoland
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There is no war, just a manufactured one from the media.

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Nearly 2/3rd of the first stimulus was towards tax cuts. I didn't think y'all counted that as spending.
In the form of $13/paycheck.

Whoopie.
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