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Old 01-23-2011, 06:28 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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We spend trillions every year on the wars and bailouts. Don't tell me we can't afford to spend that money on healthcare. You can't just divide the cost by the number of taxpaying households. Our tax system is progressive (not nearly progressive enough). Tax the living crap out of the millionaires and billionaires. They can afford to pay far more than $23,000 per year. Having a 99% tax rate on those making more than $100 million per year, a 98% tax rate on those earning more than $50 million per year, an 80% tax rate on those earning $1 million and a 60% tax rate on those earning more than $200,000 per year would more than offset the effect of those earning less than $40,000 paying zero taxes.
huh

a 60% federal tax rate on a guy making 200k (middleclass) so...you are going to tax a middleclass household (200k) at federally 60% (120k) then he turns around and gets hit with 15k in property taxes...not to mention 10% in state taxes..and you still want him to work...he would do better off on welfare


btw we just crossed the mark of 1 trillion in the 9 years of war in the middleeast.....we spend more on welfare in one year than we spend on wars in 8 years
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Old 01-23-2011, 06:39 PM
 
Location: Michigan
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Pretty sweeping generalizations made in that post about Tea Partiers. I would hope you are not comparing taxpaying conservatives with tatooed white welfare trash either.
They talk the same lingo, plus or minus a few f-words per sentence.
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Old 01-23-2011, 06:40 PM
 
Location: South Portland, Maine
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I'm all for letting illegal aliens pay taxes and be citizens.

What, do you want to kick them all out? Ask the farmers and small businesses that rely on their labor. Without their cheaper labor, they'd be out of business, broke, and the economy would be worse.

Or are you against small business?

VOA | US Farmers Depend on Illegal Immigrants | USA | English
I am absolutely for kicking out illegal aliens!!

last I checked we had an unemployment problem..

Those jobs that americans are too good for??? Stop giving out the welfare, food stamps, baby care, section 8, extended upon extended upon extended upon extended unemployment benifits.. Lets see oif the farmers have a hard time finding people to work..

I am sick of driving though my city looking at all the lazy ass, trash, ignorant, and entitlement mided walking corpses hanging around smoking cigs, drinking, and doing nothing productive with their lives accept having babies..

I am sick of living in your blatently unconstitutional upsidedown bizarro world that is on the verge of financial collapse that people like you have created..
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Old 01-23-2011, 06:42 PM
 
Location: Michigan
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get rid of the liberal globalist 'freetrade' agreements
Free trade has always been a conservative position, going all the way back to the days when the Democrats were the conservative party (i.e. until about 1896 or so) and advocated free trade.
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Old 01-23-2011, 07:16 PM
 
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I defy such a person to run for office. Said candidate would lose immediately on account of a lack of voters willing to have a beer with him.

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The taxpayers don't care about your pet project, Senator, and neither do I.
Uh, yes, they do. Otherwise so many incumbents wouldn't be so easily reelected every cycle. Everyone hates everyone else's pet projects.
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Old 01-23-2011, 08:30 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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Free trade has always been a conservative position, going all the way back to the days when the Democrats were the conservative party (i.e. until about 1896 or so) and advocated free trade.
actually the freetrade was/is a PROGRESSIVE policy, and the progressive movment started about 1880

carters advisor brzezinski (CFR, and TLC) (also advisor to bush1, clinton and now obama) is the one who started the hard pushing of the free trade agreements
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Old 01-23-2011, 08:33 PM
 
Location: Southern Minnesota
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Basically, if you dont agree with it - it's liberal. Free trade is a "neoliberal" policy, but it is not liberal in the modern American sense.
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Old 01-23-2011, 08:40 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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Basically, if you dont agree with it - it's liberal. Free trade is a "neoliberal" policy, but it is not liberal in the modern American sense.
its actually very liberal in the MODERN sense..not very liberal in the TRADITIONAL sense

today's liberals (politicians, not individual people) are the same as the progressives of the 1880's or the fascists of the 1930's..ie todays liberals

the 'freetrade ' agreements are liberal..maybe neo-liberal if you want, but certainly progressive (globalist) and socialist (or the more REGULATING fascist) (the difference between socialism is one has state(givernment) ownership, while the other has corporate ownership superregulated by the government

BRZEZINSKI (TLC, CFR, bilderberg)----advisor to crater, bush1(neo-con), clinton, bush2(actually through cheney) and now obama.....all progressive globalists......
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Old 01-23-2011, 09:12 PM
 
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speaking of jobs...you gotta love when you hear people screaming "there sending all the jobs overseas"...well can YOU BLAME THEM? They cant afford it over here! I would too! The Beuaracrats make it impossible!
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Old 01-23-2011, 09:16 PM
 
Location: Southern Minnesota
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how are liberals "fascists?" Fascism is a far right ideology. Liberalism is left-wing. Just because you disagree with it doesn't make it liberal.
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