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Old 01-26-2011, 01:47 PM
 
Location: Dallas, TX
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And how is that remotely relevant to a system of government?

This discussion is about taxes, not religion. Please try to keep up.
Robin Hood wasn't government either.

But then, if you wanted to stick with discussion, perhaps you should have responded to post #20 instead?
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Old 01-26-2011, 01:47 PM
 
Location: US, California - federalist
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You are fundamentally correct. Everyone wants "profit sharing" but never considers "loss sharing"!!! It you don't like crumbs, start your own damn business, and stand on your hind legs like a man.
How does your point of view account for corporate welfare which also pays bonuses?
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Old 01-26-2011, 01:50 PM
 
Location: US, California - federalist
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Voluntarily giving something away is called charity.

Forcing people with more money to financially support others is called stealing.

Big difference.
A bigger difference is our social contract and federal Constitution; otherwise simply paying public servants could be considered stealing.
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Old 01-26-2011, 01:51 PM
 
Location: US, California - federalist
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And how is that remotely relevant to a system of government?

This discussion is about taxes, not religion. Please try to keep up.
To the extent morals are about Government, it could be relevant.
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Old 01-26-2011, 01:57 PM
 
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Robin Hood wasn't government either.

But then, if you wanted to stick with discussion, perhaps you should have responded to post #20 instead?
That is the point, chief. Robin hood was a thief, and was stealing from people. They were not voluntarily giving. It is a great analogy to excess taxation on the wealthy. It is involuntary.

Jesus recommends giving, but it is voluntary. Apples and Oranges.


I simply missed your reply in post #20. I apologize. Here it is,

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Being one of those in the top 10% (actually, I would say, closer to top 5%), I say... thank you.

Now about that job creation, give me one big reason to hire people here in the USA, instead of in India, even if all taxes were rolled down to zero.
There is no incentive to hire in the US instead of India for many jobs, nor should there be. Artificially propping up a local (United States) economy due to tax incentives and trade restrictions might be beneficial to US citizens in the short term, but it comes at the cost of an overall economic dead weight loss. There will be a great deal of pain on the part of the citizens bringing an economy back from the point where we are today, however for economies to grow one has to look beyond the emotional sob stories of individual people and look at how to create more balanced global economies. The face of economic structures have changed with globalization, and it would be very short sighted to not grow the US economy in a global nature by keeping jobs solely in the United States.
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Old 01-26-2011, 02:08 PM
 
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Actually, Jesus was pretty clear. It wasn't voluntary, it was a requirement, if they wanted to walk with Him.
Did you apply any intellectual elbow grease to this post before you hit the "egg-on-my-face" button?
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Old 01-26-2011, 02:10 PM
 
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How does your point of view account for corporate welfare which also pays bonuses?
Are you wearing any headgear made of, to any degree, tin foil???

Further: I am sorry to hurt you feelings, but you said nothing sane enough to respond to.
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Old 01-26-2011, 02:39 PM
 
Location: US, California - federalist
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Non sequiturs are usually considered fallacies even if they do not contain ad hominems. You are welcome to get argument whenever you have enough logic and reason.
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Old 01-26-2011, 03:10 PM
 
Location: Dallas, TX
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There is no incentive to hire in the US instead of India for many jobs, nor should there be. Artificially propping up a local (United States) economy due to tax incentives and trade restrictions might be beneficial to US citizens in the short term, but it comes at the cost of an overall economic dead weight loss. There will be a great deal of pain on the part of the citizens bringing an economy back from the point where we are today, however for economies to grow one has to look beyond the emotional sob stories of individual people and look at how to create more balanced global economies. The face of economic structures have changed with globalization, and it would be very short sighted to not grow the US economy in a global nature by keeping jobs solely in the United States.
In other words, you're saying that this idea of tax cuts is simply a sham and has no value.
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Old 01-26-2011, 03:13 PM
 
Location: Dallas, TX
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Did you apply any intellectual elbow grease to this post before you hit the "egg-on-my-face" button?
Nope, knowing people around, that would be a sheer waste of time. I just try to argue at the level it can be comprehended. Sometimes, like in this case, the attempt is clearly successful.
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