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Old 01-30-2011, 08:26 AM
 
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Haven't lived around many Muslims, have we?
Yes, actually.
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Old 01-30-2011, 08:33 AM
 
Location: Scotland
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Yes, actually.
Then you either must be a Muslim yourself or happy to be a Dhimmi. So as to my "bigoted and blanket statement" we'll just agree to disagree.
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Old 01-30-2011, 08:46 AM
 
Location: Zagreb, Croatia
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Actually, Europe needs more Muslims because Caucasian population growth is stagnant and Old Europe could use that vital, youthful energy that young, Muslim populations bring.
What Europe needs is to stop non-European immigration to Europe, stop propagating gayness and other immoral things that hurt society, and start paying women more money to have children, like the Russians have been doing for the past 10 years or so, and their TFR has risen from 1.3 to 1.8, and it is expected to reach replacement level (2.1) around 2015, so obviously, if there is a will to do it, it can be done, but the anti-European scumbags who run European countries must be removed from power first.

And again, it is a myth that Europe needs anybody, because even if most European nations continued to have a low birthrate (and had zero non-European immigration), it would take a very long time for the population to drop below the number needed to do all the jobs a country needs.

Throughout history the European population was decimated by plagues, wars, etc., and they never needed non-European immigration to fix it, do all the jobs, and have population growth again. Only in the second half of the 20th century did some stupid liberal politicians in western Europe get the idea that non-European immigration was/is "needed", which was and is a total lie, since Europe doesn't need them, anybody with a properly functioning brain who has ever thought about this for more than 5 minutes knows this.

And even if your gay-liberal fantasies about Europe "needing" immigration were true (which they are not), there are about 100 million Whites in Brazil, 10's of millions of them in Argentina, millions of them in South Africa, etc., so why not bring them to Europe instead of the muslims (since all of those Whites know how to speak a European language, have European culture (so they wouldn't have any trouble immigrating), etc.)? Because the goal of the traitorous European politicians is to destroy European culture, society, the various European ethnicities and so on and so forth, and not to save Europe economically, demographically and whatever else you have been brainwashed into believing, because as I have already said, if immigration was "needed" to "save" Europe, they would be bringing the Whites from Brazil, Argentina, South Africa, Chile, Uruguay, etc. over, not the primitive 3rd world muslims and blacks from Turkey, Algeria, Mali, Nigeria, etc.
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Old 01-30-2011, 08:50 AM
 
Location: North America
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What Europe needs is to stop non-European immigration to Europe, stop propagating gayness
How, exactly is Europe "propagating gayness"?
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Old 01-30-2011, 08:50 AM
 
Location: Zagreb, Croatia
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That is a bigoted and blanket statement.
The truth is not bigoted, neither are violent crime statistics.
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Old 01-30-2011, 08:54 AM
 
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European Union needs Turkey!

E.U. is playing hard-to-get. Turkey is a strategic "trading-post"; has been for eons. It's the gate-way to Europe, Asia and the middle-east!

IMO--Turkey is indigenous in its' own right.
The EU does not need Turkey. They don't need 80 +/- million Muslims overnight, just like we don't need tens of millions of Mexicans coming here. You sound like someone who is pro-open borders.

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Turkey is not European. Only dumb Americans (and some Turks) could think otherwise. As for the EU, there is no way France, Germany and Austria will allow them to join the EU, they have too many muslims there causing trouble as it is, they don't need the Turks.
Anyone who says Turkey is European is obviously brainwashed, and most likely with a dhimmi complex. Describes the leftist European quite well.

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Actually, Europe needs more Muslims because Caucasian population growth is stagnant and Old Europe could use that vital, youthful energy that young, Muslim populations bring.
Yes, bring in more welfare dependent trash that wants to take away all the progress you made in social engineering, err I mean social justice, in the past couple decades right?

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Emphatically, no! What Europe needs is more educated, ambitious, inventive, young newcomers. Precisely the type that stultifying Islamic cultures seem unable to produce in any substantial quantity.

There are over a billion Indians, Europe could import the smartest .5% of those with Hindu or Sikh extraction and we'd be just fine.
I'd vastly prefer non-Muslim Indians to Muslims any day. It's true that even in Britain, the Muslim is more likely to be on welfare than the Indian would be. I saw this when I was there. The Indians had better cars and houses, and the Muslims populated the council estates.

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Turkey has been promised EU accession for 40 or so years, so if they fulfill all requirements then of course they should be let in. Everything else would just be very unfair, I don't understand what the fuss is all about anyway.
That's because you're a communist and a dhimmi. You don't know.

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That is a bigoted and blanket statement.
Sometimes Dolly, the truth hurts, as they say
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Old 01-30-2011, 08:55 AM
 
Location: Zagreb, Croatia
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How, exactly is Europe "propagating gayness"?
By holding gay parades, by saying gayness is normal and cool, by allowing gays to marry and adopt children, by putting shows on TV that show gays as the normal and cool characters who are molested and discriminated against by the "evil" straight people , by putting gays in children's (school) books, etc.
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Old 01-30-2011, 09:00 AM
 
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The truth is not bigoted, neither are violent crime statistics.
Crime statistics don't have anything to do with the original claim that Muslims across the board are not "educated, ambitious, inventive".

Regardless of the problems multiculturalism may bring, the above isn't true as a stand alone.
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Old 01-30-2011, 09:02 AM
 
Location: Denmark
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And again, it is a myth that Europe needs anybody, because even if most European nations continued to have a low birthrate (and had zero non-European immigration), it would take a very long time for the population to drop below the number needed to do all the jobs a country needs.
Shrinking birth rates, increasing life expectancy, fewer people paying into the pension system, etc. ever thought about that? As much as Europe doesn't want these immigrants, the truth is Europe needs immigration.
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Old 01-30-2011, 09:21 AM
 
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Shrinking birth rates, increasing life expectancy, fewer people paying into the pension system, etc. ever thought about that? As much as Europe doesn't want these immigrants, the truth is Europe needs immigration.
Europe does not need immigration. In fact you need LESS people. Every one of you lives on top of each other over there. You Europeans cry that you need to reduce your carboon footprint, use less natural resources, etc. yet you want to bring in more people I'm starting to think you're a university student who hasn't had an original thought. Everything what you have said so far, is practically word-for-word straight out of some BBC spokesmouth.

If you believe in all this global warming bull, then you'd want LESS people, not MORE don't you think??
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