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Old 01-31-2011, 03:27 PM
 
Location: Midwest
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They won't notice if they watch Fox.
True. Fox will tell them that they are better off not having the donut hole covered in Medicare part D. and they will believe it!
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Old 01-31-2011, 03:29 PM
 
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True. Fox will tell them that they are better off not having the donut hole covered in Medicare part D. and they will believe it!
Can you expand this more???
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Old 01-31-2011, 03:35 PM
 
Location: Midwest
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About 3.4 million older and disabled people hit a gap, known as the doughnut hole, in their Medicare drug coverage in 2007. When that happened, they had to pay the entire costs of their medicine until they spent $3,850 out of pocket. Then, insurance coverage would kick in again.
About 15 percent of those hitting the coverage gap stopped their treatment regimen.
That rate varied depending upon illness. For example, about 10 percent of diabetes patients stopped buying the medicine, as did 16 percent of patients with high blood pressure and 18 percent of patients with osteoporosis.
What becomes of seniors when they must pay for their donut hole medications, 2007
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Old 01-31-2011, 03:38 PM
 
Location: Midwest
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Fox Obscures And Misinforms On Prescription "Doughnut Hole" Fix
Fox & Friends repeatedly misinformed about a provision in the health care reform law that fixes Medicare Part D's coverage gap, known as the "doughnut hole." Purporting to explain the "doughnut hole," Fox & Friends used the example of a fictional patient whose annual prescription costs did not reach the level of the coverage gap and later hosted Laura Ingraham, who falsely suggested the health care reform law did not fix this coverage gap.

Fox Obscures And Misinforms On Prescription "Doughnut Hole" Fix | Media Matters for America


There you go!
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Old 01-31-2011, 03:39 PM
 
Location: Chicagoland
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Nothing arbitrary about a health care tax......it has a purpose.....an important one.

You are not paying the tax to breath and exist......you are paying the tax so that you can CONTINUE to breath and exist after an illness or accidnet.

I know of very few people who manage to live their whole lives without requiring health care or hospitalization.

If you do not want to contribute to health care through taxes or premiums, then please, when you get sick.....stay home and let nature take it's course.
I guess you don't understand the limits of the federal government within the commerce clause.

Never before has the congress required citizens to purchase a product or service as a requirement for citizenship.
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Old 01-31-2011, 03:41 PM
 
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Fox & Friends repeatedly misinformed about a provision in the health care reform law that fixes Medicare Part D's coverage gap, known as the "doughnut hole." Purporting to explain the "doughnut hole," Fox & Friends used the example of a fictional patient whose annual prescription costs did not reach the level of the coverage gap and later hosted Laura Ingraham, who falsely suggested the health care reform law did not fix this coverage gap.

Fox Obscures And Misinforms On Prescription "Doughnut Hole" Fix | Media Matters for America


There you go!
Thanks.
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Old 01-31-2011, 03:42 PM
 
Location: Midwest
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I guess you don't understand the limits of the federal government within the commerce clause.

Never before has the congress required citizens to purchase a product or service as a requirement for citizenship.
I agree with you. We should convert to Universal Healthcare for all citizens and call it a tax instead! Good thinking Sanrene.
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Old 01-31-2011, 03:43 PM
 
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I agree with you. We should convert to Universal Healthcare for all citizens and call it a tax instead! Good thinking Sanrene.
How would we fund it???
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Old 01-31-2011, 03:46 PM
 
Location: Chicagoland
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The people are liking it the more they see it. Some Politicians, particularly those in some Courts, do not like that people are warming to it. They are just trying to "straighten" those people out.
Rubbish.

Opinion: Health reform's political fallout - Patrick H. Caddell and Douglas E. Schoen - POLITICO.com

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Despite talk earlier this week that the health care law was gaining favorability in the wake of the House repeal effort, polls now show it continues to be unpopular among a majority of the American public.

A poll released Tuesday by the Kaiser Family Foundation and the Harvard School of Public Health shows the law remains unpopular — with 50 percent of respondents viewing it unfavorably, up 9 percentage points from the last survey.
RealClearPolitics - Election Other - Obama and Democrats' Health Care Plan

All the despicable little details that have come out, obama has not been able to silence;

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/...are-420960137/

I'm still amazed the most fervent obama supporters would condone and approve of how this thing was passed.
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Old 01-31-2011, 03:47 PM
 
Location: Midwest
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How would we fund it???
By paying tax instead of high insurance premiums, high insurance deductibles & copays, and high medical expenses that insurance companies refuse to pay.

Also, we would no longer need Medicaid/Medicare-savings there.
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