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Old 02-01-2011, 03:18 PM
 
Location: Halifax, Nova Scotia
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but I don't think that means that Egypt is going to go to war with Israel. That is just not a logical leap. Why would anyone go to war with Israel in the Middle East. Israel has military superiority...this is much to do about nothing.
Because certain elements want and need you to believe in all of this.

It's as simple as that.
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Old 02-01-2011, 03:46 PM
 
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Because certain elements want and need you to believe in all of this.

It's as simple as that.
I find it astounding how many people actually buy into all the propaganda.
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Old 02-01-2011, 04:30 PM
 
Location: Houston, Tx
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Why would anyone go to war with Israel in the Middle East. Israel has military superiority...
A nice logical analysis and, as such, beyond the grasp of most jihadists. Allah wills it and if Allah wills it them relative military strengths of the two sides mean nothing. In every battle the Muslims fought in Mohammad's time they were outnumbered anywhere between 3-1 and 7-1 and they always prevailed. Muslims look at this as proof that if they are doing Allah's will then nothing can oppose them. 'Allah's hands will not be fettered' is the reason they reject logical reasoning as it puts limitations on Allah's will, which is blasphemy. It is another reason why you can't reason with them.
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Old 02-01-2011, 04:41 PM
 
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A nice logical analysis and, as such, beyond the grasp of most jihadists. Allah wills it and if Allah wills it them relative military strengths of the two sides mean nothing. In every battle the Muslims fought in Mohammad's time they were outnumbered anywhere between 3-1 and 7-1 and they always prevailed. Muslims look at this as proof that if they are doing Allah's will then nothing can oppose them. 'Allah's hands will not be fettered' is the reason they reject logical reasoning as it puts limitations on Allah's will, which is blasphemy. It is another reason why you can't reason with them.
Well fortunately there does not seem to be any Jihadists in power in the middle east since Israel has not been attacked by another country in a long time, and that did not end very well. There is no reason to believe it will be any different in Egypt.

The only thing Israel has to fear is the rise of a saladin, which is not likely. This is all about the victimization of Israel. There are no real threats.
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Old 02-01-2011, 04:45 PM
 
Location: Louisiana
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Well fortunately there does not seem to be any Jihadists in power in the middle east since Israel has not been attacked by another country in a long time, and that did not end very well. There is no reason to believe it will be any different in Egypt.

The only thing Israel has to fear is the rise of a saladin, which is not likely. This is all about the victimization of Israel. There are no real threats.
"no real threats"
Wow...I feel better now.
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Old 02-01-2011, 04:47 PM
 
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"no real threats"
Wow...I feel better now.
I am glad I could help.
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Old 02-01-2011, 04:53 PM
 
Location: Houston, Tx
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The only thing Israel has to fear is the rise of a saladin, which is not likely.
The restoration of the caliphate or the return of the hidden imam, as the Shia in Iran are waiting for. There's your Saladin. Not likely? Well, it's been 80+ years since the disolution of the caliphate but sooner or later it will be restored. That is one of the things the whole Muslim world is waiting for. Who knows what the triggering event will be?
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Old 02-01-2011, 05:02 PM
 
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The restoration of the caliphate or the return of the hidden imam, as the Shia in Iran are waiting for. There's your Saladin. Not likely? Well, it's been 80+ years since the disolution of the caliphate but sooner or later it will be restored. That is one of the things the whole Muslim world is waiting for. Who knows what the triggering event will be?

These are not the days of the crusades. You can't surround yourself with an army and expect to survive. One smart bomb is all it takes, No there will never be another Saladin. This is just another great conspiracy theory made to scare the masses to support the alleged victimization of Israel
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Old 02-01-2011, 05:05 PM
 
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Well fortunately there does not seem to be any Jihadists in power in the middle east since Israel has not been attacked by another country in a long time, and that did not end very well. There is no reason to believe it will be any different in Egypt.

The only thing Israel has to fear is the rise of a saladin, which is not likely. This is all about the victimization of Israel. There are no real threats.
Now this is getting really detached from reality. NO JIHADISTS IN POWER IN THE MIDDLE EAST?????
Who's in power in Iran??
What about Gaza? Ever hear of Hamas?
And do you not consider Hezbullah to be Jihadists? They now control Lebanon.

"There are no real threats"? "Alleged victimization"??? There are 50,000 Jihadist short, medium, and long range missiles in Lebanon and Gaza pointed at all of Israel's population centers. In addition to the chemically-tipped missiles in Syria and who knows what in Iran.

Get real.
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Old 02-01-2011, 05:11 PM
 
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Now this is getting really detached from reality. NO JIHADISTS IN POWER IN THE MIDDLE EAST?????
Who's in power in Iran??
What about Gaza? Ever hear of Hamas?
And do you not consider Hezbullah to be Jihadists? They now control Lebanon.

"There are no real threats"? "Alleged victimization"??? There are 50,000 Jihadist short, medium, and long range missiles in Lebanon and Gaza pointed at all of Israel's population centers. In addition to the chemically-tipped missiles in Syria and who knows what in Iran.

Get real.
All of the countries in the middle east know that in a military conflict with Israel...they lose, which is why there has not been an attempted invasion of Israel. If what you say is true, why have they not launched the weapons. If there were Jihadist in power, the fact that they would lose would not figure into the equation. Just simple logic.
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