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Old 10-25-2010, 07:51 AM
 
Location: South East
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LOL, you made the assertion that the "Republicans are saying taxes will go up for everyone" when you are caught not telling the truth you now change it to "the right wing is saying the President will raise taxes on the middle class" We have all seen that you rarely engage with facts.


Don't worry the Republicans will bail the country out on November 2nd!

Can't get here soon enough!
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Old 10-25-2010, 07:55 AM
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Any chance of getting back to the topic of this thread?
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Old 10-25-2010, 07:57 AM
 
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LOL, you made the assertion that the "Republicans are saying taxes will go up for everyone" when you are caught not telling the truth you now change it to "the right wing is saying the President will raise taxes on the middle class" We have all seen that you rarely engage with facts.
LOL... That's exactly what they've done... My links provide all the proof you need... The Republicans have been implying all along that The President will raise everyone's taxes.... In an attempt to scare people into thinking that the President is a socialist...

What this is really about is that the top 2% don't want their Bush tax cuts to go away... So they want to scare everybody... including you...
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Old 10-25-2010, 08:00 AM
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I guess not - sorry I asked...
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Old 10-25-2010, 11:30 AM
 
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People fear being unemployed because of the hostile business environment created by Obama.

By the way I am still waiting for you to support your statement about Republicans saying people making under $200k would see their taxes go up. You can either present evidence or admit you made it up....
Hostile business environment?... Tax cuts and loans to small businesses sure sounds hostile to me...
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Old 10-25-2010, 05:23 PM
 
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Oh yeah? How do you know? Is that you Nancy?

Also I await your documentation concerning Republicans.
Here it is... Tax cuts to 0% for the rich...

Read The Bill: H.R. 5029 - GovTrack.us

The Economic Freedom Act of 2010 -- introduced by Reps. Jim Jordan (R-Ohio) and Jason Chaffetz (R-Utah) -- proposes deep tax cuts favoring the wealthiest in America, a reduction in regulatory oversight and the elimination of a federal tax on the estates of millionaires, which will allow wealthy investors to escape taxes entirely on a significant portion of their income.

"The tax cuts they want to give, as usual under Republican policies, will give 62 percent of the tax cuts to the top 1 percent of Americans,"

"Or said another way, an average $467 tax cut to working Americans in the middle of the income levels, and to the top 1 percent earners, an average of $157,000 tax cut,

and to Goldman Sachs, $2.6 billion in tax cuts.

When you analyze that, you know what is happening is the same old Bush policies of advantaging the wealthy at the expense of the middle income working people and tax cuts which did not, as they were advertised to, grow the economy and grow jobs. In fact, they did just the opposite."

This is almost five times bigger than Bush tax cuts were," It really represents a doubling down on Bush's economic agenda. Where he skewed his tax policy heavily to the rich, this would skew it even further even to the exclusion of the middle class.

"$7 trillion in additional debt and deficit over next ten years would be calamitous,". "I think it's hard to understate the radicalism of this plan."
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Old 10-25-2010, 08:41 PM
 
Location: Portland, OR
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When Obama's failings are delivered with thoughtfulness and accuracy by posters like harborlady, Jazzytallguy or even nhartphotog (sp) even a staunch Liberal Democrat has to acknowledge that there is truth in there somewhere. When posters on the right slam Obama it is simple reaction to 1.)Obama's being a Democrat and/or 2.)his being (half) African-American. HC475 makes a very strong argument for the reactionist Republican overthrow of a Democratic Congress being the last thing America needs. The middle class will have it rough under a continuation of the pitched battle between partisan forces in the House but it will be toast under a backlash government takeover.

H
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Old 10-25-2010, 08:45 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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When Obama's failings are delivered with thoughtfulness and accuracy by posters like harborlady, Jazzytallguy or even nhartphotog (sp) even a staunch Liberal Democrat has to acknowledge that there is truth in there somewhere. When posters on the right slam Obama it is simple reaction to 1.)Obama's being a Democrat and/or 2.)his being (half) African-American. HC475 makes a very strong argument for the reactionist Republican overthrow of a Democratic Congress being the last thing America needs. The middle class will have it rough under a continuation of the pitched battle between partisan forces in the House but it will be toast under a backlash government takeover.

H
Or it could turn out in Obama's favor as it did for Clinton.
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Old 10-26-2010, 06:31 AM
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Or it could turn out in Obama's favor as it did for Clinton.
As under Clinton, the main result would be a valuable dose of relative austerity. Obama knows that, and his "plan" to focus on the deficit in his remaining years is a transparent attempt to position himself to take credit for the results.
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Old 10-26-2010, 06:33 AM
 
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Or it could turn out in Obama's favor as it did for Clinton.
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As under Clinton, the main result would be a valuable dose of relative austerity. Obama knows that, and his "plan" to focus on the deficit in his remaining years is a transparent attempt to position himself to take credit for the results.
It's said that Obama's approval rating could go up 10%-15% if Republicans take control of Congress...
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